1 00:00:07,150 --> 00:00:26,109 [Music] 2 00:00:26,119 --> 00:00:31,510 and now here's Jeanne Sandberg 3 00:00:36,860 --> 00:00:34,370 our co-host this week is Chris O'Brien 4 00:00:40,250 --> 00:00:36,870 this is the power cast and I'm Jean 5 00:00:43,190 --> 00:00:40,260 Steinberg and we have had quite a bit of 6 00:00:45,049 --> 00:00:43,200 reaction in the forums and from email 7 00:00:47,660 --> 00:00:45,059 and even on iTunes as a result of the 8 00:00:49,910 --> 00:00:47,670 changeover from an online strictly 9 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:49,920 online broadcast to one that is carried 10 00:00:54,500 --> 00:00:52,050 by terrestrial stations in the US by the 11 00:00:56,060 --> 00:00:54,510 gcn radio network of course what that 12 00:00:59,360 --> 00:00:56,070 means is once you're on commercial radio 13 00:01:01,099 --> 00:00:59,370 there are more ads that's how it works 14 00:01:04,009 --> 00:01:01,109 we use what they call a system clock 15 00:01:06,260 --> 00:01:04,019 which tells us how much programming we 16 00:01:07,969 --> 00:01:06,270 have for every segment and they have to 17 00:01:10,460 --> 00:01:07,979 be within a tenth of a second ladies and 18 00:01:12,830 --> 00:01:10,470 gentlemen really I'm serious and then 19 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:12,840 how much is for commercials and for 20 00:01:17,690 --> 00:01:15,210 local news now what this means is that 21 00:01:19,490 --> 00:01:17,700 every three-hour show has about 12 22 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:19,500 minutes more content than we used to 23 00:01:23,630 --> 00:01:21,570 have with a two-hour show the rest is 24 00:01:25,190 --> 00:01:23,640 news and also the announcements some 25 00:01:27,499 --> 00:01:25,200 people send why so many commercials 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:27,509 other podcasts don't have commercials 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:30,210 well folks here's the reason that it's 28 00:01:37,190 --> 00:01:33,570 really practical most podcasts are 29 00:01:39,170 --> 00:01:37,200 hobbies people are just going to their 30 00:01:40,460 --> 00:01:39,180 microphones or their headsets and 31 00:01:41,990 --> 00:01:40,470 they're putting on a radio show let's 32 00:01:44,210 --> 00:01:42,000 play radio show and some of them are 33 00:01:46,789 --> 00:01:44,220 really really interesting things that 34 00:01:49,609 --> 00:01:46,799 have no commercial appeal but provide 35 00:01:52,450 --> 00:01:49,619 loads of fascinating information some 36 00:01:55,249 --> 00:01:52,460 just present music the point being that 37 00:01:57,139 --> 00:01:55,259 they are not commercial ventures 38 00:01:59,480 --> 00:01:57,149 therefore there are no ads the other 39 00:02:01,819 --> 00:01:59,490 problem is advertisers don't take 40 00:02:03,230 --> 00:02:01,829 podcasts seriously there are too many of 41 00:02:05,780 --> 00:02:03,240 them they don't know which to advertise 42 00:02:08,150 --> 00:02:05,790 on which not so generally speaking they 43 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:08,160 don't advertise there are a few networks 44 00:02:13,290 --> 00:02:11,410 out there that do submit advertising to 45 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:13,300 caste but the reason they own carry ads 46 00:02:17,850 --> 00:02:15,490 is not because they don't want to it's 47 00:02:19,500 --> 00:02:17,860 because they can't get any now the other 48 00:02:21,570 --> 00:02:19,510 thing is happening here of course is 49 00:02:23,910 --> 00:02:21,580 every time we have a guest we have lots 50 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:23,920 of reactions in our forums at forum dot 51 00:02:30,210 --> 00:02:28,210 Lapera caste calm and on our episode two 52 00:02:32,940 --> 00:02:30,220 weeks ago we had publisher author 53 00:02:35,070 --> 00:02:32,950 adventurer David Hatcher Childress on 54 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:35,080 the show a very close friend of our 55 00:02:39,630 --> 00:02:37,450 co-host Chris O'Brien and as you noticed 56 00:02:41,100 --> 00:02:39,640 Chris some people weren't too happy 57 00:02:46,830 --> 00:02:41,110 about the way he approached these 58 00:02:51,450 --> 00:02:46,840 subjects uh evidently not well one thing 59 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:51,460 I really I really should say here Jean 60 00:02:55,910 --> 00:02:53,650 is it's really tough to be all things to 61 00:02:58,680 --> 00:02:55,920 all people I don't think it's our job to 62 00:03:01,050 --> 00:02:58,690 nail nail people's ears back there are a 63 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:01,060 lot of aspects of David's work that I 64 00:03:06,210 --> 00:03:04,690 personally have questions about but the 65 00:03:10,500 --> 00:03:06,220 bottom line is though that the guys been 66 00:03:12,570 --> 00:03:10,510 in 105 countries he generally every year 67 00:03:14,970 --> 00:03:12,580 travels two or three months out of the 68 00:03:17,310 --> 00:03:14,980 year around the world he has visited all 69 00:03:20,610 --> 00:03:17,320 the side city writes and researches it 70 00:03:22,530 --> 00:03:20,620 writes about he's worked his work as 71 00:03:25,110 --> 00:03:22,540 dovetailed with some of the brightest 72 00:03:26,820 --> 00:03:25,120 minds and I fusionist archaeology he's 73 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:26,830 not an armchair guy he doesn't just 74 00:03:30,780 --> 00:03:28,510 cherry-pick other people's theories and 75 00:03:33,900 --> 00:03:30,790 work he goes out in the field and 76 00:03:36,300 --> 00:03:33,910 actually does the heavy lifting out 77 00:03:38,690 --> 00:03:36,310 there around the world and it's very 78 00:03:41,340 --> 00:03:38,700 difficult to sum up 30 plus years of 79 00:03:45,270 --> 00:03:41,350 research and thinking and theorizing in 80 00:03:47,670 --> 00:03:45,280 a short two-hour amount of time so we're 81 00:03:49,590 --> 00:03:47,680 gonna have to have David back on I think 82 00:03:52,170 --> 00:03:49,600 it would be great to start a thread on 83 00:03:54,870 --> 00:03:52,180 the para cast form for potential 84 00:03:58,410 --> 00:03:54,880 questions for David I think we should 85 00:04:00,090 --> 00:03:58,420 move on and really I think dive into 86 00:04:03,570 --> 00:04:00,100 some of the theories and that he 87 00:04:05,970 --> 00:04:03,580 presented in you know I just he just 88 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:05,980 touched on so many different things we 89 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:07,450 were really didn't have the time to go 90 00:04:11,100 --> 00:04:09,250 deeply into some of the subjects that he 91 00:04:13,710 --> 00:04:11,110 broached now one of the things we should 92 00:04:16,409 --> 00:04:13,720 point out also Chris is the fact that 93 00:04:18,599 --> 00:04:16,419 because he was basically covering the 94 00:04:20,820 --> 00:04:18,609 highlights the conclusions we couldn't 95 00:04:22,650 --> 00:04:20,830 stop and every single question say okay 96 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:22,660 David prove that proof that where's your 97 00:04:26,070 --> 00:04:24,130 evidence where's your evidence 98 00:04:27,570 --> 00:04:26,080 but once we focus more tightly on a 99 00:04:29,850 --> 00:04:27,580 subject for example he has a new book 100 00:04:31,740 --> 00:04:29,860 out on sasquatch and we want to bring 101 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:31,750 them back to talk about that we're going 102 00:04:35,430 --> 00:04:33,490 to look at every piece of evidence see 103 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:35,440 if it passes muster see the stuff that 104 00:04:39,420 --> 00:04:37,810 fits in woo woo land you're like Gangu 105 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:39,430 will land right that is that trickster 106 00:04:43,710 --> 00:04:42,010 place we will land he to where the 107 00:04:45,630 --> 00:04:43,720 church that goes on vacation I think oh 108 00:04:48,780 --> 00:04:45,640 I just thought you went to the local 109 00:04:50,730 --> 00:04:48,790 brothel or something now the church that 110 00:04:53,010 --> 00:04:50,740 goes on vacation we will and you're 111 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:53,020 right we yeah I think it would be a lot 112 00:04:58,890 --> 00:04:55,690 more in-depth if we did try to rein our 113 00:05:01,350 --> 00:04:58,900 subject down a little bit and really 114 00:05:03,330 --> 00:05:01,360 dive into some of some of the more 115 00:05:06,330 --> 00:05:03,340 interesting aspects of his research I 116 00:05:09,300 --> 00:05:06,340 mean the guy has written 30 books I mean 117 00:05:11,670 --> 00:05:09,310 and published I don't know hundreds so 118 00:05:13,110 --> 00:05:11,680 you know he's not a quick study and we 119 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:13,120 definitely need to spend a little time I 120 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:15,370 think if we narrow our focus subject 121 00:05:19,890 --> 00:05:16,810 matter wise I think that we'll be able 122 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:19,900 to get into his work and his thinking a 123 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:24,010 lot more in-depth for those skeptical 124 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:25,570 types on the forums I think they'll 125 00:05:29,220 --> 00:05:26,530 appreciate that 126 00:05:31,770 --> 00:05:29,230 I think if the trickster doesn't show up 127 00:05:34,290 --> 00:05:31,780 on their lawn on the front lawn 128 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:34,300 or come through the window some people 129 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:35,770 won't believe there's a trickster even 130 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:37,930 or a sasquatch they don't want to read 131 00:05:43,170 --> 00:05:40,210 about a sasquatch they want that 132 00:05:45,330 --> 00:05:43,180 Sasquatch to be coming to their home you 133 00:05:48,870 --> 00:05:45,340 know they wanted to basically press the 134 00:05:51,270 --> 00:05:48,880 doorbell and say hi I'm a sasquatch take 135 00:05:52,740 --> 00:05:51,280 me to your leader or give me a bagel and 136 00:05:55,530 --> 00:05:52,750 cream cheese depending on their point of 137 00:05:57,510 --> 00:05:55,540 view exactly well yet they'll go to 138 00:05:59,040 --> 00:05:57,520 church every Sunday so you know yeah 139 00:06:01,320 --> 00:05:59,050 wait a minute we don't know about the 140 00:06:02,850 --> 00:06:01,330 religious persuasions of Sasquatch maybe 141 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:02,860 they're Jewish they go to a temple on 142 00:06:07,950 --> 00:06:05,890 Friday night maybe they're Muslims you 143 00:06:11,250 --> 00:06:07,960 know it doesn't matter you know right 144 00:06:13,770 --> 00:06:11,260 okay so he goes to Temple you know again 145 00:06:17,660 --> 00:06:13,780 I really do think that the David is well 146 00:06:20,010 --> 00:06:17,670 mama Sasquatch it shouldn't know from it 147 00:06:21,630 --> 00:06:20,020 let's uh squash what is the Squatch like 148 00:06:23,820 --> 00:06:21,640 they must like matzo ball or a matzo 149 00:06:25,710 --> 00:06:23,830 ball soup actually the Sasquatch soup 150 00:06:27,630 --> 00:06:25,720 you know they get mish-mosh soup you 151 00:06:29,850 --> 00:06:27,640 know what that is you go to a restaurant 152 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:29,860 get on the shamash it's a mixture of 153 00:06:36,810 --> 00:06:32,290 kreplach which is kind of like a kosher 154 00:06:37,950 --> 00:06:36,820 wonton am i so ball noodles and chicken 155 00:06:39,540 --> 00:06:37,960 it is delish 156 00:06:41,999 --> 00:06:39,550 what are we talking about soup for 157 00:06:45,330 --> 00:06:42,009 sounds like penicillin it is this is 158 00:06:53,070 --> 00:06:45,340 Jewish penicillin first class mohnish MA 159 00:06:56,460 --> 00:06:53,080 okay and when did this start what did 160 00:06:58,140 --> 00:06:56,470 this uh squash soup or this or the 161 00:07:01,650 --> 00:06:58,150 dropping of that language there that 162 00:07:02,969 --> 00:07:01,660 stage I gone I learned some Hebrew you 163 00:07:04,830 --> 00:07:02,979 learned some heed we probably know more 164 00:07:08,700 --> 00:07:04,840 Hebrew than I do it's been you know 100 165 00:07:10,110 --> 00:07:08,710 years since I studied Hebrew but that's 166 00:07:12,510 --> 00:07:10,120 good to know okay so we're gonna have a 167 00:07:15,089 --> 00:07:12,520 Hebrew language section of the show I 168 00:07:17,010 --> 00:07:15,099 think the series is speaking by the time 169 00:07:18,629 --> 00:07:17,020 you hear this show which is going to be 170 00:07:21,749 --> 00:07:18,639 basically the first weekend of August 171 00:07:25,020 --> 00:07:21,759 we're going to have a forum over at 172 00:07:27,450 --> 00:07:25,030 forum dr. Perik asked um questions for 173 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:27,460 David Hatcher Childress oh go ask your 174 00:07:32,249 --> 00:07:30,130 questions the next time he's here we'll 175 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:32,259 ask those questions no promises as to 176 00:07:36,420 --> 00:07:34,330 whether you will believe him or not but 177 00:07:38,490 --> 00:07:36,430 one thing we're not going to do you know 178 00:07:40,770 --> 00:07:38,500 we got into a couple of nasty habits in 179 00:07:42,930 --> 00:07:40,780 the old administration of the power cast 180 00:07:44,700 --> 00:07:42,940 where after a guest left we'd have the 181 00:07:46,350 --> 00:07:44,710 Monday Morning Quarterback thing and 182 00:07:48,870 --> 00:07:46,360 that's not bad so much is a good idea to 183 00:07:50,670 --> 00:07:48,880 have a commentary but sometimes certain 184 00:07:52,740 --> 00:07:50,680 people would use that to trash a guest 185 00:07:54,870 --> 00:07:52,750 now doesn't mean we have to agree with 186 00:07:56,490 --> 00:07:54,880 what the guest says a lot of times we 187 00:07:59,129 --> 00:07:56,500 don't and we'll still ask the hard 188 00:08:01,439 --> 00:07:59,139 questions but you know we need to get 189 00:08:03,420 --> 00:08:01,449 along sometimes because these subjects 190 00:08:06,060 --> 00:08:03,430 are complicated there isn't a yes-or-no 191 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:06,070 answer and sometimes that may be is very 192 00:08:15,749 --> 00:08:12,130 broad I'll say now one of the things 193 00:08:17,999 --> 00:08:15,759 you've done amongst all the people who 194 00:08:19,740 --> 00:08:18,009 we've had on the show a lot of people 195 00:08:21,959 --> 00:08:19,750 who are involved in research you've gone 196 00:08:24,839 --> 00:08:21,969 out there and spent years checking 197 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:24,849 things and our guest this week Ted 198 00:08:31,469 --> 00:08:28,930 Phillips studies trace evidence of UFO 199 00:08:34,050 --> 00:08:31,479 sightings and certainly you in your 200 00:08:36,829 --> 00:08:34,060 studies of various strange places around 201 00:08:41,659 --> 00:08:36,839 the country you've done on-site research 202 00:08:45,210 --> 00:08:41,669 yeah Ted Ted's one of the people that I 203 00:08:49,260 --> 00:08:45,220 modeled my my approach after I think Ted 204 00:08:51,050 --> 00:08:49,270 is one of the more important figures in 205 00:08:54,890 --> 00:08:51,060 the history of 206 00:08:58,250 --> 00:08:54,900 UFO investigation I've known Ted for 207 00:09:01,310 --> 00:08:58,260 many years and he kind of keeps a low 208 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:01,320 profile and a lot of just your 209 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:03,930 rank-and-file buffs out there aren't 210 00:09:08,690 --> 00:09:06,690 really I think that familiar with Ted 211 00:09:11,750 --> 00:09:08,700 and I think this is going to be a really 212 00:09:15,140 --> 00:09:11,760 fun show we're going to show what a true 213 00:09:17,990 --> 00:09:15,150 pioneer in this field is like and what 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show which 339 00:14:44,980 --> 00:14:42,380 has got to be a year or two ago Ted and 340 00:14:47,050 --> 00:14:44,990 that is you were talking about this area 341 00:14:49,330 --> 00:14:47,060 of the country that you call Marley 342 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:49,340 woods where a lot of strange stuff was 343 00:14:54,730 --> 00:14:52,490 going on where does that stand now well 344 00:15:01,000 --> 00:14:54,740 the interesting thing about Marley woods 345 00:15:02,890 --> 00:15:01,010 is I've been there 12 years and the 346 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:02,900 interesting thing is it gets more 347 00:15:11,050 --> 00:15:07,730 interesting every year and I of course 348 00:15:14,590 --> 00:15:11,060 have done a lot of research into it's 349 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:14,600 kind of parallel universe the skinwalker 350 00:15:23,710 --> 00:15:19,610 ranch and have obtained quite a lot of 351 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:23,720 very good information so it turns out 352 00:15:32,940 --> 00:15:27,170 after all these years that the Marley 353 00:15:36,700 --> 00:15:32,950 woods is evolving if you will just 354 00:15:41,350 --> 00:15:36,710 pretty well as skinwalker has as far as 355 00:15:46,450 --> 00:15:41,360 types of events and results from those 356 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:46,460 types of events and so I'm using the 357 00:15:54,010 --> 00:15:50,810 skinwalker events and history is kind of 358 00:15:55,990 --> 00:15:54,020 a baseline for Marley and it's right 359 00:15:58,210 --> 00:15:56,000 there okay you know what maybe we should 360 00:16:00,370 --> 00:15:58,220 look at the comparisons because we know 361 00:16:02,740 --> 00:16:00,380 that skinwalker ranch is an area where a 362 00:16:04,630 --> 00:16:02,750 lot of strange stuff goes on but maybe 363 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:04,640 for listeners who just joined the show 364 00:16:09,670 --> 00:16:06,170 we've had quite a few since we went on 365 00:16:12,700 --> 00:16:09,680 the network exactly what kind of events 366 00:16:18,430 --> 00:16:12,710 are we talking about well at skinwalker 367 00:16:22,150 --> 00:16:18,440 they have tried to obtain images still 368 00:16:25,390 --> 00:16:22,160 and video and so on and have hit a lot 369 00:16:28,060 --> 00:16:25,400 of major problems in that 370 00:16:32,340 --> 00:16:28,070 the and they have security people that 371 00:16:36,070 --> 00:16:32,350 monitor the equipment in the area and 372 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:36,080 they will look at a camera that's out 373 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:38,930 suddenly it just stops operating and to 374 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:45,490 go to the camera and either it has no 375 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:49,370 track down problems but is just stopped 376 00:16:58,570 --> 00:16:53,330 working or the hard line from the camera 377 00:17:02,410 --> 00:16:58,580 to the storing area is cut into about a 378 00:17:04,540 --> 00:17:02,420 half million tiny little pieces and or 379 00:17:09,970 --> 00:17:04,550 the camera is greatly damaged or the 380 00:17:14,500 --> 00:17:09,980 cameras gone and so then as they put up 381 00:17:17,710 --> 00:17:14,510 cameras to watch cameras a camera for 382 00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:17,720 example would disappear and the camera 383 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:22,160 watching the camera had no indication of 384 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:24,970 an individual walking up and taken it 385 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:27,770 it's just there one frame in the next 386 00:17:34,420 --> 00:17:29,930 frame no camera and that sort of stuff 387 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:34,430 and I've started to encounter that at 388 00:17:44,710 --> 00:17:39,490 Marleen last year and they have numerous 389 00:17:49,810 --> 00:17:44,720 well documented sightings of large very 390 00:17:52,860 --> 00:17:49,820 odd animal-like creatures and lo and 391 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:52,870 behold we now have that at Marley and 392 00:17:59,350 --> 00:17:55,930 started about a year and a half ago and 393 00:18:02,860 --> 00:17:59,360 the types of objects seems the small 394 00:18:04,990 --> 00:18:02,870 light balls and I call them myself 395 00:18:08,110 --> 00:18:05,000 I call them light balls because I don't 396 00:18:11,910 --> 00:18:08,120 want people to confuse them with what is 397 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:11,920 commonly known as an orb which is 398 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:14,090 generally the result of the best 399 00:18:19,750 --> 00:18:16,490 particles in front of a digital camera 400 00:18:22,630 --> 00:18:19,760 and has nothing at all to do with this 401 00:18:26,290 --> 00:18:22,640 stuff and these the light balls are 402 00:18:29,590 --> 00:18:26,300 actually a self-contained light that 403 00:18:32,710 --> 00:18:29,600 ranges from the size of a baseball up to 404 00:18:35,850 --> 00:18:32,720 a beach ball and in some cases we've 405 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:35,860 seen the things ten feet across and 406 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:37,970 silent 407 00:18:46,010 --> 00:18:42,650 no visible means of support and I 408 00:18:46,430 --> 00:18:46,020 watched one two weeks ago for almost two 409 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:46,440 hours 410 00:18:56,230 --> 00:18:51,930 a gold-colored outfit and very small and 411 00:18:58,850 --> 00:18:56,240 the thing cut maneuvers that you just I 412 00:19:02,420 --> 00:18:58,860 mean you think you're going nuts when 413 00:19:04,910 --> 00:19:02,430 you watch this thing and it better find 414 00:19:07,430 --> 00:19:04,920 that what do you mean by going nuts in 415 00:19:09,710 --> 00:19:07,440 terms of watching this of course I'm 416 00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:09,720 going nuts quite often just hosting a 417 00:19:13,750 --> 00:19:11,520 paranormal radio show and people say 418 00:19:17,540 --> 00:19:13,760 well I'm certifiable 419 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:17,550 yeah well by by going nuts I mean you're 420 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:20,250 standing there in the dark watching this 421 00:19:27,650 --> 00:19:24,690 and you start to question am I really 422 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:27,660 seeing what I'm seeing because it is so 423 00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:30,570 out of the ordinary to the extreme that 424 00:19:36,410 --> 00:19:34,320 you begin to doubt your own own vision 425 00:19:38,810 --> 00:19:36,420 and yet over a period well I 426 00:19:43,370 --> 00:19:38,820 photographed the thing and the camera is 427 00:19:46,510 --> 00:19:43,380 not influenced by my insanity and the 428 00:19:49,490 --> 00:19:46,520 camera sees it's okay it was there and 429 00:19:53,650 --> 00:19:49,500 but I'm telling you if you ever see one 430 00:19:57,740 --> 00:19:53,660 of these things and the motion is way 431 00:20:01,370 --> 00:19:57,750 incredible and this the motion is so 432 00:20:04,550 --> 00:20:01,380 incredibly smooth and here is just 433 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:04,560 silently sailing across the sky for 434 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:07,010 perhaps 40 50 degrees 435 00:20:12,980 --> 00:20:10,170 stopping instantly and following about 436 00:20:15,650 --> 00:20:12,990 the same path back to its original point 437 00:20:18,980 --> 00:20:15,660 going straight up going in circles 438 00:20:21,140 --> 00:20:18,990 coming down to the ground and that's the 439 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:21,150 second of the gold light bolts that I've 440 00:20:26,540 --> 00:20:24,450 actually personally seen the other one 441 00:20:29,090 --> 00:20:26,550 was about three feet off the ground and 442 00:20:33,910 --> 00:20:29,100 three of us watched as it maneuvered 443 00:20:36,350 --> 00:20:33,920 around trees in a very dense woods and 444 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:36,360 pretty spectacular stuff 445 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:38,730 let me ask fans question here this 446 00:20:44,270 --> 00:20:42,570 strange phenomena this alone what you're 447 00:20:50,210 --> 00:20:44,280 talking about could that be some kind of 448 00:20:53,060 --> 00:20:50,220 natural effect no no no I I watched two 449 00:20:57,050 --> 00:20:53,070 of those one evening flying side-by-side 450 00:21:00,470 --> 00:20:57,060 and they were identical in size and 451 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:00,480 shape color brightness and they looked 452 00:21:08,090 --> 00:21:05,490 like two old 1930s type automobile 453 00:21:11,210 --> 00:21:08,100 headlights about that size same 454 00:21:13,220 --> 00:21:11,220 configuration sharp outline and they 455 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:13,230 were flying about three feet apart there 456 00:21:19,310 --> 00:21:16,410 was 60 feet from me so I had a really 457 00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:19,320 good view and they were coming through a 458 00:21:25,820 --> 00:21:23,120 lightly wooded area and they maintained 459 00:21:29,780 --> 00:21:25,830 exactly the same distance apart as 460 00:21:33,410 --> 00:21:29,790 they're moving and as they would both 461 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:33,420 turn to the right and go around a tree 462 00:21:43,010 --> 00:21:38,090 they maintained this same distance and 463 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:43,020 so in respective positions and a one 464 00:21:48,980 --> 00:21:46,290 occasion I actually did see them go one 465 00:21:53,210 --> 00:21:48,990 on each side of the tree so they were 466 00:21:57,260 --> 00:21:53,220 not connected and the flow along there 467 00:22:02,210 --> 00:21:57,270 for about 35 seconds then out into a 468 00:22:05,930 --> 00:22:02,220 field and they made a pretty sharp right 469 00:22:08,660 --> 00:22:05,940 angle turn and as they did so I could no 470 00:22:10,430 --> 00:22:08,670 longer see them okay they're basically 471 00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:10,440 doing the kind of maneuvers that are 472 00:22:17,330 --> 00:22:15,360 common with some UFOs oh sure yeah yeah 473 00:22:21,050 --> 00:22:17,340 exactly yeah except there's so much 474 00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:21,060 smaller so and you know they have the a 475 00:22:26,150 --> 00:22:24,120 lot of times they've been reported I 476 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:26,160 haven't got to see this one exactly yet 477 00:22:31,010 --> 00:22:29,130 but the light ball would be seen six 478 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:31,020 feet above the ground it will descend 479 00:22:37,070 --> 00:22:34,530 vertically six feet come back down go 480 00:22:40,220 --> 00:22:37,080 back up six feet go six feet to the left 481 00:22:42,380 --> 00:22:40,230 these are approximate but the witnesses 482 00:22:43,820 --> 00:22:42,390 were closed okay so we have a new 483 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:43,830 version I want to cover that more and 484 00:22:48,860 --> 00:22:47,130 more detail yeah we have UFO paranormal 485 00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:48,870 trace researcher Ted Phillips 486 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:51,360 co-host is Chris O'Brien I'm gene 487 00:22:59,800 --> 00:22:55,290 Steinberg you're in the para cast 488 00:23:02,240 --> 00:22:59,810 [Music] 489 00:23:04,190 --> 00:23:02,250 okay neighbors here's the problem 490 00:23:06,410 --> 00:23:04,200 face to face business meetings with 491 00:23:09,110 --> 00:23:06,420 clients and colleagues are always going 492 00:23:11,570 --> 00:23:09,120 to be important but 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Chris O'Brien Ted Phillips UFO 590 00:27:29,369 --> 00:27:26,740 trace evidence researcher I'm gene 591 00:27:30,779 --> 00:27:29,379 Steinberg during the power cast Chris 592 00:27:33,869 --> 00:27:30,789 you want to pick up on the questioning 593 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:33,879 yeah this is uh this case Ted 594 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:37,289 sounds like Oh what I would call is as a 595 00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:39,610 it could be a real litmus test I think 596 00:27:46,019 --> 00:27:42,720 for for actual techniques and equipment 597 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:46,029 that we need to monitor a location 598 00:27:50,220 --> 00:27:48,490 specific area like this now are you 599 00:27:52,619 --> 00:27:50,230 using light aided equipment 600 00:27:54,989 --> 00:27:52,629 do you have infrared cameras on these 601 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:54,999 objects or is that standard is that a 602 00:28:02,659 --> 00:27:58,090 standard video setup well actually I 603 00:28:06,499 --> 00:28:02,669 have a couple of IR cameras and 604 00:28:12,269 --> 00:28:06,509 primarily what we're using right now is 605 00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:12,279 an array of eight CCD imagers going into 606 00:28:23,509 --> 00:28:18,159 a DVR storage and that way those things 607 00:28:26,549 --> 00:28:23,519 can operate 24/7 and when I'm there I 608 00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:26,559 and some of the team members can go out 609 00:28:32,460 --> 00:28:29,200 to other areas knowing that if something 610 00:28:35,369 --> 00:28:32,470 happens we're going to have it and we 611 00:28:37,940 --> 00:28:35,379 can try to get closer to the smaller 612 00:28:41,129 --> 00:28:37,950 objects and an object's near the ground 613 00:28:43,169 --> 00:28:41,139 and we do have in development right now 614 00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:43,179 as a matter of fact it's being tested 615 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:47,529 right now an incredible array which will 616 00:28:55,739 --> 00:28:51,970 not only photograph and very high 617 00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:55,749 definition the objects but it will also 618 00:29:04,139 --> 00:28:59,440 lock on and track them and giving you 619 00:29:07,879 --> 00:29:04,149 all kinds of telemetry and it will have 620 00:29:11,220 --> 00:29:07,889 our has an electromagnetic detector and 621 00:29:15,570 --> 00:29:11,230 a lot of bells and whistles I mean it's 622 00:29:16,950 --> 00:29:15,580 an extreme outfit and it's being 623 00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:16,960 developed 624 00:29:27,060 --> 00:29:22,710 far more laid by a very well-known 625 00:29:30,330 --> 00:29:27,070 motion picture person and obviously I 626 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:30,340 can't give a name that and so we're 627 00:29:35,399 --> 00:29:33,610 working along those lines and my primary 628 00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:35,409 interest and I know what you're saying 629 00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:41,049 and it is a hugely important part of the 630 00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:44,110 research being able to monitor image and 631 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:47,289 track these things even at a distance 632 00:29:54,269 --> 00:29:50,890 but my big thing is trying to get as 633 00:29:57,380 --> 00:29:54,279 close as possible for personal 634 00:30:01,260 --> 00:29:57,390 observation and also photography so 635 00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:01,270 we're working both ends that that you're 636 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:05,200 totally right if you look at what's 637 00:30:11,909 --> 00:30:07,770 what's going on it's another baseline 638 00:30:15,029 --> 00:30:11,919 for imaging equipment what does it need 639 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:15,039 to do to get what we the data we really 640 00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:17,890 need right exactly I'm going through the 641 00:30:21,299 --> 00:30:19,510 same thing right now with the San Luis 642 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:21,309 Valley project that I'm doing which is 643 00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:24,610 similar in scope to your effort although 644 00:30:28,350 --> 00:30:26,049 I will be covering I think a larger 645 00:30:31,169 --> 00:30:28,360 geographic area how about an additional 646 00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:31,179 type of instrumentation you mentioned 647 00:30:35,310 --> 00:30:33,760 that you do have some AM detectors and 648 00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:35,320 other types of gear what what other 649 00:30:39,779 --> 00:30:37,600 approaches in terms of instrumentation 650 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:39,789 are you taking well we're looking at 651 00:30:45,740 --> 00:30:43,450 light spectrum which is is kind of 652 00:30:51,990 --> 00:30:45,750 difficult because things on occasion 653 00:30:54,450 --> 00:30:52,000 appear for just seconds and the longer 654 00:30:58,500 --> 00:30:54,460 duration objects seem to be almost 655 00:31:00,899 --> 00:30:58,510 constantly in motion and it's it's the 656 00:31:03,930 --> 00:31:00,909 new array however when it's locked on 657 00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:03,940 we'll follow that and we'll get some 658 00:31:13,250 --> 00:31:08,799 really great spectral analysis Thanks 659 00:31:16,980 --> 00:31:13,260 are you using you're using some sort of 660 00:31:18,750 --> 00:31:16,990 is it a like a lens that's gathering the 661 00:31:21,389 --> 00:31:18,760 spectra that's dividing the light up or 662 00:31:23,899 --> 00:31:21,399 yeah like a blazed grading right but 663 00:31:27,090 --> 00:31:23,909 then you have to be 90 degrees I think 664 00:31:28,529 --> 00:31:27,100 to the actual light source 665 00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:28,539 that makes it difficult when objects are 666 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:32,710 moving yes it does and you know what 667 00:31:39,390 --> 00:31:35,530 what kind of amazes me but I guess I 668 00:31:41,450 --> 00:31:39,400 understand it to people occasionally 669 00:31:44,909 --> 00:31:41,460 we'll say well why don't you have more 670 00:31:47,549 --> 00:31:44,919 really sharp definitive photographs well 671 00:31:49,890 --> 00:31:47,559 you go out the pitch-black night out in 672 00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:49,900 the woods and I don't care how many 673 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:53,919 cameras you have our people the way 674 00:31:59,850 --> 00:31:57,490 these things seem to operate it's a very 675 00:32:03,590 --> 00:31:59,860 difficult job now we have some really I 676 00:32:07,260 --> 00:32:03,600 think good photos and some great video 677 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:07,270 considering the circumstances I mean 678 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:09,490 it's not like going out to the County 679 00:32:15,899 --> 00:32:12,130 Fair and taking night pictures as you 680 00:32:17,549 --> 00:32:15,909 well know Oh No yeah that's boy if we 681 00:32:21,149 --> 00:32:17,559 could only be so lucky 682 00:32:23,789 --> 00:32:21,159 uh no question you know I heard kind of 683 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:23,799 a grapevine here about a year ago about 684 00:32:28,590 --> 00:32:26,610 a pretty disturbing event that that 685 00:32:30,750 --> 00:32:28,600 according to this person took place 686 00:32:35,850 --> 00:32:30,760 there where an animal was found a 687 00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:35,860 horribly disfigured and killed and I do 688 00:32:40,830 --> 00:32:37,929 seem to recall some sort of structural 689 00:32:44,159 --> 00:32:40,840 damage that was done I think to a barn 690 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:44,169 or to some Corral oh configuration you 691 00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:45,250 want what you want to tell us about 692 00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:49,360 there I can you yes yeah I've one of the 693 00:32:58,909 --> 00:32:55,110 one of the areas a rancher had really a 694 00:33:02,100 --> 00:32:58,919 very expensive kind of a pet horse and 695 00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:02,110 it was kept in a tubular steel Corral 696 00:33:06,899 --> 00:33:04,960 and every morning he would drive out to 697 00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:06,909 the ranch and first thing he would go up 698 00:33:13,470 --> 00:33:10,110 to the corral and talk to the horse and 699 00:33:16,020 --> 00:33:13,480 pet it and so on and he rode this horse 700 00:33:17,730 --> 00:33:16,030 quite often but at any rate at this 701 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:17,740 particular morning he went out in the 702 00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:19,890 horse was fine he talked to the horse I 703 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:22,510 don't know if the horse had anything to 704 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:25,210 say but anyway after they visited he got 705 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:27,250 in the pickup and he drove to another 706 00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:31,090 section of the ranch 15 minutes or less 707 00:33:37,530 --> 00:33:34,480 he comes back and no horse in the corral 708 00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:37,540 and one section in tune of steel corral 709 00:33:42,390 --> 00:33:39,910 is pushed down 710 00:33:45,060 --> 00:33:42,400 the ground outwardly from inside the 711 00:33:47,790 --> 00:33:45,070 growl and he looks everywhere because 712 00:33:51,710 --> 00:33:47,800 this horse if he got out would stay 713 00:33:55,310 --> 00:33:51,720 right around the area very very pain and 714 00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:55,320 so he's calling the horse and he notices 715 00:34:02,220 --> 00:33:58,810 the old barn some distance from there 716 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:02,230 and he notices at the front door a large 717 00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:05,410 heavy wooden door is badly damaged and 718 00:34:10,770 --> 00:34:07,600 kind of pushed in and down a little bit 719 00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:10,780 and he walks into the barn and he said 720 00:34:18,630 --> 00:34:14,320 he said you know I found the horse and 721 00:34:22,050 --> 00:34:18,640 he said it was in smears of blood and 722 00:34:25,409 --> 00:34:22,060 tiny horse pieces all over the interior 723 00:34:28,110 --> 00:34:25,419 the walls ceiling the floor and he said 724 00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:28,120 it was just like the horse head exploded 725 00:34:36,690 --> 00:34:32,800 and so how do you do that how do you you 726 00:34:39,450 --> 00:34:36,700 force a horse in to control it enough to 727 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:39,460 get it inside a barn and then what do 728 00:34:44,460 --> 00:34:42,850 you do to to produce that kind of effect 729 00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:44,470 in less than fifteen minutes 730 00:34:49,919 --> 00:34:47,679 well he have a vendor pathologist come 731 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:49,929 out or any sort of without any sort of 732 00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:52,450 investigation done with this or any no 733 00:34:58,740 --> 00:34:56,110 apples bankís was on the animal no I I 734 00:35:01,320 --> 00:34:58,750 didn't learn him this happened in 2003 735 00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:01,330 and this particular witness has been a 736 00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:05,110 great help but he is very reluctant the 737 00:35:12,030 --> 00:35:08,320 guy who owned the ranch before him was 738 00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:12,040 considered crazy honestly crazy by 739 00:35:17,310 --> 00:35:15,250 friends relatives and so on because for 740 00:35:19,140 --> 00:35:17,320 years he talked about lights and beams 741 00:35:21,390 --> 00:35:19,150 coming out of them and they would land 742 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:21,400 and all this made they just assumed he 743 00:35:26,490 --> 00:35:21,970 was nuts 744 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:26,500 and this now is kind of the epicenter of 745 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:30,970 a lot of the observations so the guy 746 00:35:37,770 --> 00:35:35,530 wasn't crazy and so based on that this 747 00:35:39,620 --> 00:35:37,780 Rancher does he says it over and over I 748 00:35:42,870 --> 00:35:39,630 don't want people to think I'm crazy 749 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:42,880 he's very careful even with me he trusts 750 00:35:49,460 --> 00:35:45,610 me because he knows I'm not going to 751 00:35:54,380 --> 00:35:49,470 identify him or the property 752 00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:54,390 and eventually over the years the trust 753 00:36:00,790 --> 00:35:58,650 got to a much greater point and I was 754 00:36:05,589 --> 00:36:00,800 talking to him one afternoon about 755 00:36:09,050 --> 00:36:05,599 animal mutilations the cattle kind and 756 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:09,060 he said well I told you about my horse 757 00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:12,210 did not and I mean he thinks in his mind 758 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:14,250 that he's still ready he told me but he 759 00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:18,930 hadn't and so this was about five years 760 00:36:26,060 --> 00:36:22,320 after it happened and so he immediately 761 00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:26,070 took us to the barn which is very close 762 00:36:31,460 --> 00:36:29,310 to falling down now and we look for 763 00:36:34,250 --> 00:36:31,470 anything that might have any kind of 764 00:36:36,770 --> 00:36:34,260 sample of anything I'll tell you what we 765 00:36:38,810 --> 00:36:36,780 see that in a moment EDD will pursue in 766 00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:38,820 a moment we have Ted Phillips we're 767 00:36:45,349 --> 00:36:41,250 talking about some of his investigations 768 00:36:47,330 --> 00:36:45,359 into trace evidence and other stuff 769 00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:47,340 regarding paranormal events in various 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883 00:41:41,859 --> 00:41:39,249 that Phillips is our guest this week the 884 00:41:45,460 --> 00:41:41,869 co-host is Chris O'Brien I'm gene 885 00:41:48,249 --> 00:41:45,470 Steinberger in the power cast and when 886 00:41:50,319 --> 00:41:48,259 we kind of interrupted you there you 887 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:50,329 were talking about some of your 888 00:41:56,829 --> 00:41:51,890 investigations you want to pick up on 889 00:41:59,440 --> 00:41:56,839 that yes I had the guys go in and in the 890 00:42:01,930 --> 00:41:59,450 barn and of course there was no visible 891 00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:01,940 residue of anything after five years and 892 00:42:08,259 --> 00:42:05,839 but we we did take samples even of the 893 00:42:11,950 --> 00:42:08,269 wood and some of what looked like impact 894 00:42:14,769 --> 00:42:11,960 areas and especially the doors and so on 895 00:42:18,130 --> 00:42:14,779 because as you all know you know 46 896 00:42:21,999 --> 00:42:18,140 years of of taking samples that's really 897 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:22,009 my big thing and unfortunately none of 898 00:42:26,579 --> 00:42:23,930 the samples produced anything of 899 00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:26,589 interest and so I you know I keep 900 00:42:33,220 --> 00:42:29,569 telling him it's very important to let 901 00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:33,230 me know because on the team we have as 902 00:42:38,739 --> 00:42:35,839 far as I'm concerned the best vet in the 903 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:38,749 country and I didn't know this guy was a 904 00:42:43,420 --> 00:42:39,890 good friend didn't know he's even 905 00:42:48,759 --> 00:42:43,430 interested in UFOs until about a year 906 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:48,769 ago and so he's at the ready to to do 907 00:42:56,220 --> 00:42:53,930 some really good work and also I've been 908 00:42:59,499 --> 00:42:56,230 approached by a microbiologist he and I 909 00:43:02,950 --> 00:42:59,509 have become good friends and he sent me 910 00:43:07,150 --> 00:43:02,960 a lot of DNA analysis equipment and so 911 00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:07,160 on and for getting the samples and a lot 912 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:08,569 of information on how to do that 913 00:43:14,890 --> 00:43:12,130 properly so we're waiting you know and 914 00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:14,900 most of the other witnesses if something 915 00:43:20,229 --> 00:43:18,049 happened to one of their animals I would 916 00:43:21,759 --> 00:43:20,239 know it immediately while they're 917 00:43:24,279 --> 00:43:21,769 standing there looking at it they'd be 918 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:24,289 on the cell phone I unasked a question 919 00:43:29,079 --> 00:43:26,930 here Ted before we go on Marley was you 920 00:43:30,489 --> 00:43:29,089 can't tell us exactly what the real name 921 00:43:33,940 --> 00:43:30,499 of this place is and where it's located 922 00:43:35,950 --> 00:43:33,950 Kenya no is there a reason for that is 923 00:43:39,130 --> 00:43:35,960 it privacy for y'all who live there yeah 924 00:43:41,470 --> 00:43:39,140 because these folks don't want a hundred 925 00:43:43,509 --> 00:43:41,480 thousand people carrying the fences down 926 00:43:44,810 --> 00:43:43,519 to get in to try to see this stuff and 927 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:44,820 also on what 928 00:43:52,310 --> 00:43:48,530 4:7 cable news shows yes exactly yeah 929 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:52,320 and when they went into skinwalker ranch 930 00:43:57,500 --> 00:43:55,650 in Big Time and brought in all kinds of 931 00:44:01,610 --> 00:43:57,510 people equipment buildings and 932 00:44:04,580 --> 00:44:01,620 everything the observations almost 933 00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:04,590 totally stopped and so I'm very 934 00:44:09,980 --> 00:44:07,110 concerned about any drastic changes in 935 00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:09,990 the environment there as a matter of 936 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:12,960 fact when we go into the woods trying to 937 00:44:15,860 --> 00:44:15,090 get into like what I call a light bulb 938 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:15,870 nest 939 00:44:22,820 --> 00:44:19,290 we don't have flashlights on very quiet 940 00:44:25,940 --> 00:44:22,830 and don't park vehicles in any of these 941 00:44:30,110 --> 00:44:25,950 areas because you don't want to change 942 00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,120 anything there and you know we don't 943 00:44:34,550 --> 00:44:32,400 know enough about these things to know 944 00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:34,560 what they respond to they do seem to be 945 00:44:38,990 --> 00:44:37,440 curious about vehicles that's shown up 946 00:44:43,970 --> 00:44:39,000 of course down through the years with 947 00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:43,980 all kinds of vehicle cases but in one 948 00:44:51,140 --> 00:44:47,280 instance a family of four pulled into a 949 00:44:52,910 --> 00:44:51,150 little cemetery in the area and it was 950 00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:52,920 the night before Halloween they wanted 951 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:54,720 to scare the devil out of their kids 952 00:45:00,890 --> 00:44:57,690 well one of the kids they had two sons 953 00:45:02,410 --> 00:45:00,900 20 and 12 hopefully the 20 year old 954 00:45:08,900 --> 00:45:02,420 would have been that frightened but 955 00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:08,910 that's me anyway we have a lot of people 956 00:45:12,050 --> 00:45:10,560 of that age group now who are going to 957 00:45:12,980 --> 00:45:12,060 be putting messages in our forums 958 00:45:17,300 --> 00:45:12,990 screaming at us 959 00:45:19,070 --> 00:45:17,310 oh oh no listen I absolutely love people 960 00:45:23,300 --> 00:45:19,080 in that I wish to god I was that age 961 00:45:26,510 --> 00:45:23,310 again believe me but and I tell you what 962 00:45:32,450 --> 00:45:26,520 studies have indicated have shown that 963 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:32,460 people in the 17 - I think it's 21 age 964 00:45:38,450 --> 00:45:35,490 group are absolutely the best witnesses 965 00:45:40,850 --> 00:45:38,460 to events they're alley ordinary because 966 00:45:44,210 --> 00:45:40,860 they're able to retain more detail the 967 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:44,220 more observant and so on so having said 968 00:45:50,810 --> 00:45:48,450 that to correct wrong these people had 969 00:45:52,850 --> 00:45:50,820 never seen anything and didn't expect 970 00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:52,860 you there were absolute skeptics but 971 00:45:57,380 --> 00:45:54,480 it's a good Halloween thing for the 972 00:45:58,130 --> 00:45:57,390 family they thought and they pull their 973 00:46:01,549 --> 00:45:58,140 car into 974 00:46:03,259 --> 00:46:01,559 the cemetery and they're there 20 975 00:46:05,329 --> 00:46:03,269 minutes now I've been over there I was 976 00:46:10,250 --> 00:46:05,339 there five months before I saw anything 977 00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:10,260 and 20 minutes they see this small light 978 00:46:18,620 --> 00:46:13,680 coming from the north and the the wife 979 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:18,630 had a very nice HD camera and she 980 00:46:25,849 --> 00:46:21,450 immediately starts videotaping the 981 00:46:29,630 --> 00:46:25,859 object and all in all she got over 15 982 00:46:31,819 --> 00:46:29,640 minutes of this stuff and listening to 983 00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:31,829 their voices as they talked about what 984 00:46:38,329 --> 00:46:35,250 they were seeing is just marvelous audio 985 00:46:41,299 --> 00:46:38,339 and so anyway this thing came in and cut 986 00:46:44,660 --> 00:46:41,309 all kinds of maneuvers you can see it 987 00:46:47,839 --> 00:46:44,670 very clearly and eventually then it 988 00:46:50,930 --> 00:46:47,849 shoots off to the northeast and in a 989 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:50,940 matter of 8 and a half seconds two 990 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:54,210 objects come into view and they said 991 00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:56,450 they were about basketball-sized and 992 00:47:02,990 --> 00:46:59,760 right as they show up on the video and 993 00:47:06,410 --> 00:47:03,000 the two are very close to each other one 994 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:06,420 above the other and taking the video 995 00:47:13,579 --> 00:47:09,690 frame by frame you see these beautiful 996 00:47:16,339 --> 00:47:13,589 changes in color in each of the objects 997 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:16,349 different colors in each object and a 998 00:47:23,779 --> 00:47:20,490 kind of faint veil or curtain will 999 00:47:25,730 --> 00:47:23,789 develop between the two and then it 1000 00:47:29,089 --> 00:47:25,740 disappears it's just a two and then it 1001 00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:29,099 comes back and for the first time ever 1002 00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:32,609 I've never seen detail like this in 1003 00:47:38,089 --> 00:47:35,250 light ball imagery you can very clearly 1004 00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:38,099 see that it's like looking into an 1005 00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:40,730 extremely bright light at the center and 1006 00:47:50,420 --> 00:47:43,920 on occasion you can see it is sort of a 1007 00:47:54,650 --> 00:47:50,430 long bar of light and a rectangular bar 1008 00:47:58,359 --> 00:47:54,660 of light and all around it is this cloud 1009 00:48:04,630 --> 00:47:58,369 like material that is constantly 1010 00:48:09,980 --> 00:48:04,640 changing shape and it's like a cloud 1011 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:09,990 well the plasma event I I've not seen 1012 00:48:15,070 --> 00:48:11,450 any really good bit 1013 00:48:17,380 --> 00:48:15,080 Oh of a plasma cloud but I don't think 1014 00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:17,390 so I think it's it would be quite 1015 00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:20,480 different from what I've what I know of 1016 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:25,520 the plasma responses but and of course 1017 00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:29,330 there was no sound and of course number 1018 00:48:32,380 --> 00:48:31,910 one you don't have I don't I to my 1019 00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:32,390 knowledge 1020 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:36,110 an observation of a plasma display for 1021 00:48:42,130 --> 00:48:39,050 fifteen minutes and not being attached 1022 00:48:45,250 --> 00:48:42,140 to anything these things were about 1023 00:48:47,470 --> 00:48:45,260 forty feet above the ground they reach 1024 00:48:53,590 --> 00:48:47,480 the point forty feet from the witnesses 1025 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:53,600 and then a third red object which was 1026 00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:55,850 smaller came into view the most 1027 00:48:58,960 --> 00:48:58,400 beautiful shades of red that you've ever 1028 00:49:03,070 --> 00:48:58,970 seen 1029 00:49:06,070 --> 00:49:03,080 very intense red Center they took 1030 00:49:10,930 --> 00:49:06,080 cellphone photos the twelve-year-old 1031 00:49:15,130 --> 00:49:10,940 and which are incredibly sharp and there 1032 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:15,140 is a little metal of shed over a picnic 1033 00:49:22,030 --> 00:49:18,290 bench a very heavy wooden picnic bench 1034 00:49:24,100 --> 00:49:22,040 and they were just feet from it and the 1035 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:24,110 red light comes down to within three 1036 00:49:31,630 --> 00:49:26,810 feet or so of the northeast corner of 1037 00:49:36,220 --> 00:49:31,640 the roof of this shed and I mean it's 1038 00:49:38,530 --> 00:49:36,230 open on the sides and they hear an odd 1039 00:49:40,780 --> 00:49:38,540 sound that they just couldn't figure out 1040 00:49:43,210 --> 00:49:40,790 what what was that's what would make 1041 00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:43,220 that sound and he also could hear 1042 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:46,250 footsteps in the gravel and yet they 1043 00:49:52,900 --> 00:49:49,330 couldn't see anything and at one point 1044 00:49:56,770 --> 00:49:52,910 the 12 and 20 year olds saw what looked 1045 00:50:02,500 --> 00:49:56,780 like a dark silhouette of a very large 1046 00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:02,510 very large animal like thing and so all 1047 00:50:07,870 --> 00:50:04,730 this is going on the two objects go over 1048 00:50:10,570 --> 00:50:07,880 and stop by a large tree in there 1049 00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:10,580 hovering stationary about four feet 1050 00:50:15,340 --> 00:50:13,520 above the ground and the husband's 1051 00:50:17,740 --> 00:50:15,350 describing them as as they're 1052 00:50:22,090 --> 00:50:17,750 videotaping he said look at that Debbie 1053 00:50:23,970 --> 00:50:22,100 he said it looks like a curtain of white 1054 00:50:28,590 --> 00:50:23,980 curtain or white dress 1055 00:50:30,180 --> 00:50:28,600 in there and so anyway this is this is 1056 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:30,190 the kind of stuff you can really get 1057 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:32,890 your teeth into and the way it is 1058 00:50:40,650 --> 00:50:35,770 astounding it really is now you had a 1059 00:50:41,820 --> 00:50:40,660 total of what 12 15 years there pardon 1060 00:50:44,010 --> 00:50:41,830 you spent a number of years 1061 00:50:44,580 --> 00:50:44,020 investigating this particular locale 1062 00:50:48,660 --> 00:50:44,590 right 1063 00:50:50,359 --> 00:50:48,670 yeah December of 98 yeah alcoho boy so 1064 00:50:53,099 --> 00:50:50,369 we're talking about in nearly 12 years 1065 00:50:56,550 --> 00:50:53,109 yeah mm-hmm okay yeah 1066 00:50:59,340 --> 00:50:56,560 and I I almost didn't go the one the 1067 00:51:01,710 --> 00:50:59,350 property owners call me and mid-december 1068 00:51:04,109 --> 00:51:01,720 because he and his family had had a 1069 00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:04,119 really close extraordinary observation 1070 00:51:09,810 --> 00:51:06,730 and then they started seeing this stuff 1071 00:51:11,609 --> 00:51:09,820 on a regular basis and he asked me if 1072 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:11,619 I'd come down and try to help him figure 1073 00:51:17,790 --> 00:51:13,810 out what's going on well I haven't done 1074 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:17,800 a very good job in twelve years and I 1075 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:19,930 also you may get me right in another 15 1076 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:25,450 years right I'm not sure about that but 1077 00:51:29,220 --> 00:51:27,130 I'll tell you what we'll pursue this in 1078 00:51:31,620 --> 00:51:29,230 a moment we have 10 Phillips Ted 1079 00:51:34,260 --> 00:51:31,630 Phillips has been spending nearly 12 1080 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:34,270 years on-site in this region which he 1081 00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:35,850 calls Marley woods to investigate 1082 00:51:41,099 --> 00:51:39,040 numerous paranormal occurrences my 1083 00:51:44,730 --> 00:51:41,109 co-host this week is Chris O'Brien I'm 1084 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:44,740 gene Steinberg you're in the power cast 1085 00:51:52,410 --> 00:51:49,770 [Music] 1086 00:51:54,359 --> 00:51:52,420 hi this is Ted Anderson if you own an 1087 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:54,369 Apple iPhone and loved to listen to your 1088 00:51:58,410 --> 00:51:56,650 favorite programs on GCM I've got good 1089 00:52:00,750 --> 00:51:58,420 news for you I'm proud to announce that 1090 00:52:03,330 --> 00:52:00,760 gzn has a brand new iPhone app available 1091 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:03,340 for our dedicated listeners at GCM 1092 00:52:07,380 --> 00:52:05,290 live.com listen to your favorite 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00:52:36,210 --> 00:52:34,660 public currency is a greater menace to 1108 00:52:37,830 --> 00:52:36,220 the liberties of the people than a stand 1109 00:52:39,210 --> 00:52:37,840 Urmi Ted Anderson I'm placing a free 1110 00:52:41,099 --> 00:52:39,220 silver dollar in a book that explains 1111 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:41,109 our monetary system call for your copy 1112 00:52:45,349 --> 00:52:43,450 800 six eight six two two three seven 1113 00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:45,359 it's time to understand the system call 1114 00:52:57,450 --> 00:52:55,119 866 to 237 that's 800 686 to 237 welcome 1115 00:53:00,839 --> 00:52:57,460 back to the pair cast the gold standard 1116 00:53:12,810 --> 00:53:00,849 of paranormal radio and now here's gene 1117 00:53:17,980 --> 00:53:15,550 our guest this week Ted Phillips who has 1118 00:53:20,310 --> 00:53:17,990 spent many years investigating trace 1119 00:53:23,500 --> 00:53:20,320 cases involving Paranormal Activity 1120 00:53:26,740 --> 00:53:23,510 concentrating for nearly 12 years on the 1121 00:53:28,900 --> 00:53:26,750 Marla woods case located in the u.s. our 1122 00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:28,910 co-host this week is Chris O'Brien I'm 1123 00:53:33,430 --> 00:53:31,250 gene Steinberg you're in the para cast 1124 00:53:35,260 --> 00:53:33,440 Chris you want to pick up on that yeah 1125 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:35,270 Ted this this sounds like one of those 1126 00:53:41,260 --> 00:53:39,530 once-in-a-lifetime cases that really 1127 00:53:43,690 --> 00:53:41,270 deserve the amount of time that you've 1128 00:53:45,790 --> 00:53:43,700 uh that you've spent in the and the 1129 00:53:48,190 --> 00:53:45,800 actual you know putting together a team 1130 00:53:51,070 --> 00:53:48,200 getting a budget getting the kinds of 1131 00:53:53,620 --> 00:53:51,080 gear together and and people to 1132 00:53:56,859 --> 00:53:53,630 customize software the type the type of 1133 00:53:58,210 --> 00:53:56,869 approach that warms my heart there's not 1134 00:53:59,980 --> 00:53:58,220 enough people out there in the field 1135 00:54:01,750 --> 00:53:59,990 that are that are going the extra mile 1136 00:54:04,329 --> 00:54:01,760 to do the quality of work that you're 1137 00:54:06,070 --> 00:54:04,339 doing now you mentioned early on and we 1138 00:54:09,070 --> 00:54:06,080 had some other parallels with the 1139 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:09,080 Sherman ranch case in Utah go popularly 1140 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:11,690 known as the skinwalker ranch now how 1141 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:15,050 about the the animal death correlation 1142 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:17,690 you mentioned this this horrific event 1143 00:54:25,630 --> 00:54:21,770 that occurred some years back in 2003 1144 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:25,640 have there been any attendant Academy 1145 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:27,650 relation cases or livestock death cases 1146 00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:30,170 in the in the area has the ranch itself 1147 00:54:35,859 --> 00:54:32,089 experienced these cases or have you seen 1148 00:54:37,390 --> 00:54:35,869 some sort of spill over into the let's 1149 00:54:39,820 --> 00:54:37,400 say the farming and ranching community 1150 00:54:42,339 --> 00:54:39,830 around this particular locale mm-hmm 1151 00:54:48,730 --> 00:54:42,349 well we as a matter of fact there have 1152 00:54:53,410 --> 00:54:48,740 been numerous cattle mutilations and in 1153 00:54:56,170 --> 00:54:53,420 one case for Angus bulls were taken down 1154 00:54:58,890 --> 00:54:56,180 and that would be a pretty good task I 1155 00:55:03,970 --> 00:54:58,900 don't quite know how you would do that 1156 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:03,980 but and there have been events two years 1157 00:55:10,540 --> 00:55:06,010 ago a year and a half ago there were 1158 00:55:15,310 --> 00:55:10,550 events involving horses a herd of horses 1159 00:55:18,220 --> 00:55:15,320 and and cattle different ranches 1160 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:18,230 about 4 miles apart one of the most 1161 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:22,610 interesting of these cases was six 1162 00:55:26,260 --> 00:55:24,530 calves and they were all in perfect 1163 00:55:28,420 --> 00:55:26,270 health when the owner would leave the 1164 00:55:31,870 --> 00:55:28,430 ranch and this place is locked up you 1165 00:55:34,770 --> 00:55:31,880 don't drive in on it and and do all that 1166 00:55:37,270 --> 00:55:34,780 and the people around the area watch 1167 00:55:39,970 --> 00:55:37,280 very closely if they don't know you 1168 00:55:42,700 --> 00:55:39,980 you're not going to get anywhere on any 1169 00:55:45,580 --> 00:55:42,710 of the property and I totally can 1170 00:55:49,450 --> 00:55:45,590 understand that luckily they know me but 1171 00:55:51,670 --> 00:55:49,460 anyway the six calves over a period of 1172 00:55:54,850 --> 00:55:51,680 two weeks he would come out in the 1173 00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:54,860 morning and the mother would be standing 1174 00:56:01,660 --> 00:55:57,680 there over the previously very healthy 1175 00:56:03,940 --> 00:56:01,670 calf which was reduced to skeletal 1176 00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:03,950 remains nothing inside the skeleton 1177 00:56:11,950 --> 00:56:09,680 nothing outside left and no distension 1178 00:56:15,730 --> 00:56:11,960 of the skeleton in other words nothing 1179 00:56:18,550 --> 00:56:15,740 broken apart or injured the skeletal 1180 00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:18,560 structure in each of the six cases which 1181 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:20,720 were all repeats of that over a couple 1182 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:25,090 of weeks there would be found a 10-foot 1183 00:56:35,050 --> 00:56:29,690 depressed ring and 10-foot seems to be 1184 00:56:36,910 --> 00:56:35,060 the thing the soup of the day for traces 1185 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:36,920 over there because every one that I've 1186 00:56:45,370 --> 00:56:41,570 seen measured an exact ten feet circular 1187 00:56:48,070 --> 00:56:45,380 and with the central area not damaged 1188 00:56:50,740 --> 00:56:48,080 and as a matter of fact one that I was 1189 00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:50,750 over there and one of the ranchers was 1190 00:56:57,310 --> 00:56:55,250 cutting hay and he comes up to the cabin 1191 00:57:01,780 --> 00:56:57,320 and he says well you're going to hate me 1192 00:57:04,750 --> 00:57:01,790 too he said I ran over a ring and 1193 00:57:07,780 --> 00:57:04,760 they're not always exactly a ring some 1194 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:07,790 of them are ovals and some of them are 1195 00:57:13,180 --> 00:57:10,490 depressed and swirled throughout and 1196 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:13,190 some with the centre still standing this 1197 00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:16,490 one was depressed throughout and it made 1198 00:57:21,370 --> 00:57:19,760 me depressed because he ran over it and 1199 00:57:25,100 --> 00:57:21,380 cut it down he couldn't get stopped in 1200 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:27,860 the cattle stuff goes on you know and 1201 00:57:36,140 --> 00:57:32,370 the problem again is when something like 1202 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:36,150 that happens the witness is reluctant he 1203 00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:38,370 wants to imagine us to believe that he 1204 00:57:44,660 --> 00:57:41,520 can take care of it himself somehow yeah 1205 00:57:47,660 --> 00:57:44,670 and so finally recently he told me he 1206 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:47,670 said I I could please help me and help 1207 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:50,810 me find out how to stop this so I think 1208 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:53,610 cooperation is going to allow us to to 1209 00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:55,770 really I mean he will tell me instantly 1210 00:58:01,520 --> 00:57:58,170 about a light or if he finds tracks or 1211 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:01,530 something but he's very sensitive about 1212 00:58:05,330 --> 00:58:04,290 the animals that are killed you know I 1213 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:05,340 can understand that 1214 00:58:11,090 --> 00:58:08,250 yeah absolutely I but something I've I 1215 00:58:12,770 --> 00:58:11,100 know very well how difficult it is to 1216 00:58:15,620 --> 00:58:12,780 get ranches to come forward in a timely 1217 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:15,630 manner there is a stigma attached to 1218 00:58:18,830 --> 00:58:17,130 these cattle deaths in the ranching 1219 00:58:21,410 --> 00:58:18,840 community I don't care who you are 1220 00:58:24,740 --> 00:58:21,420 studying this that's that's one thing I 1221 00:58:27,830 --> 00:58:24,750 think it will both agree on he does I'm 1222 00:58:31,490 --> 00:58:27,840 sure he is aware the importance of you 1223 00:58:33,230 --> 00:58:31,500 and and gear being on site in a timely 1224 00:58:34,610 --> 00:58:33,240 manner so that we can oh yeah I mean 1225 00:58:36,380 --> 00:58:34,620 we're talking about physical evidence 1226 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:36,390 here that we could we could glean all 1227 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:39,090 sorts of information from if we're if 1228 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:42,450 we're told of the case so yeah oh that's 1229 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:44,730 uh I'm hoping for your sake and for the 1230 00:58:48,770 --> 00:58:46,290 sake of moving this whole investigation 1231 00:58:50,690 --> 00:58:48,780 forward that the ranching community 1232 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:50,700 there in the area is aware of the you 1233 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:52,890 know the real importance of the timing 1234 00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:55,530 nature being on site now you make my 1235 00:59:00,260 --> 00:58:57,930 impressions dead guys it's structured 1236 00:59:02,870 --> 00:59:00,270 craft what sort of structured craft have 1237 00:59:05,330 --> 00:59:02,880 been seen in the area or did you is this 1238 00:59:07,490 --> 00:59:05,340 something that has been reported you're 1239 00:59:09,260 --> 00:59:07,500 you're you're talking about rings that 1240 00:59:11,900 --> 00:59:09,270 seem to indicate some sort of physical 1241 00:59:13,310 --> 00:59:11,910 presence of of nuts and bolts type 1242 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:13,320 phenomenon 1243 00:59:19,700 --> 00:59:15,810 what about structure craft well you know 1244 00:59:22,310 --> 00:59:19,710 not there are not a lot of reports of 1245 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:22,320 structured craft generally they're 1246 00:59:28,330 --> 00:59:25,530 brilliantly illuminated things there 1247 00:59:32,930 --> 00:59:28,340 have been two cases well several cases 1248 00:59:36,790 --> 00:59:32,940 in which deputies would see a bust sized 1249 00:59:38,510 --> 00:59:36,800 object which was kind of a stubby cigar 1250 00:59:41,540 --> 00:59:38,520 configuration 1251 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:41,550 over very slowly and quietly and so on 1252 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:47,490 and on one occasion an object at five 1253 00:59:54,350 --> 00:59:50,250 witnesses estimated to be 300 feet long 1254 00:59:58,700 --> 00:59:54,360 was seen and it was again a cylindrical 1255 01:00:04,700 --> 00:59:58,710 thing and the underneath was covered 1256 01:00:07,100 --> 01:00:04,710 with gazillion tiny white lights and the 1257 01:00:10,340 --> 01:00:07,110 shape could be seen as it blocked out 1258 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:10,350 the Stars and it was a dark object 1259 01:00:16,580 --> 01:00:13,770 obviously and I do have video of that it 1260 01:00:19,730 --> 01:00:16,590 doesn't show much except that something 1261 01:00:21,830 --> 01:00:19,740 really odd was there and big because you 1262 01:00:26,090 --> 01:00:21,840 can see the lights but not a shape of 1263 01:00:28,370 --> 01:00:26,100 the object and the cool thing is it 1264 01:00:30,890 --> 01:00:28,380 appears first in the east and it flies 1265 01:00:34,220 --> 01:00:30,900 slowly over not at a high altitude and 1266 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:34,230 they watch it and as it passes just to 1267 01:00:39,710 --> 01:00:35,610 the west of the ranch 1268 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:39,720 it suddenly splits in half the one half 1269 01:00:47,780 --> 01:00:42,050 continues moving along the the 1270 01:00:51,950 --> 01:00:47,790 trajectory and the second half peels off 1271 01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:51,960 to the left to the south and flies away 1272 01:00:58,820 --> 01:00:55,440 to the south and is seen by four more 1273 01:01:01,340 --> 01:00:58,830 witnesses 20 miles south as it flies 1274 01:01:04,970 --> 01:01:01,350 over their place or farm now that's some 1275 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:04,980 pretty weird stuff there yeah yeah and 1276 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:07,410 that many witnesses and these are 1277 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:10,290 extremely reliable people you see not 1278 01:01:19,580 --> 01:01:16,770 one I have on file 224 witnesses and in 1279 01:01:22,550 --> 01:01:19,590 this area and not one has ever gone 1280 01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:22,560 public so you don't make up a bunch of 1281 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:24,960 big fat lies and keep them to yourself 1282 01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:28,770 yeah and I mean these that goes a long 1283 01:01:33,230 --> 01:01:31,110 way for credibility with me and these 1284 01:01:37,190 --> 01:01:33,240 are just people who are trying to get on 1285 01:01:39,650 --> 01:01:37,200 with their lives which in some cases are 1286 01:01:43,850 --> 01:01:39,660 being very much disrupted by this stuff 1287 01:01:48,290 --> 01:01:43,860 and so if there is no question it's 1288 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:48,300 going on and it's the first place in 46 1289 01:01:52,420 --> 01:01:50,010 years of research that I've actually 1290 01:01:56,420 --> 01:01:52,430 been able to see 1291 01:01:59,290 --> 01:01:56,430 objects that I couldn't identify and so 1292 01:02:02,150 --> 01:01:59,300 it's it's pretty important to me 1293 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:02,160 yeah well it's really good that uh that 1294 01:02:07,220 --> 01:02:04,410 you're able to have a team that's going 1295 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:07,230 to be helping you monitor this this this 1296 01:02:12,859 --> 01:02:09,330 sounds like a you know a major full-time 1297 01:02:15,410 --> 01:02:12,869 job for for even you know I put a number 1298 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:15,420 of people now you mentioned that 1299 01:02:20,030 --> 01:02:17,610 recently there's been these appearances 1300 01:02:21,590 --> 01:02:20,040 of what appear to be you fantastic sort 1301 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:21,600 of animal forms you want to get into 1302 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:23,490 that a little bit and give us an idea of 1303 01:02:27,590 --> 01:02:25,890 what people are reporting I'll tell you 1304 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:27,600 what it looks like that hold back for 1305 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:29,130 our next section we'll talk about the 1306 01:02:33,859 --> 01:02:31,410 stray animal seen in connection with 1307 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:33,869 what's going on at Marly woods our guest 1308 01:02:38,690 --> 01:02:36,210 this week is Ted Phillips co-host is 1309 01:02:47,110 --> 01:02:38,700 Chris O'Brien I'm gene Steinberg you're 1310 01:02:51,610 --> 01:02:49,230 [Music] 1311 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:51,620 you are about to enter another dimension 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01:07:27,809 --> 01:07:21,099 para cast com get in on all the action 1424 01:07:30,059 --> 01:07:27,819 at forum dot the para cast comm our 1425 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:30,069 guest this week is Ted Phillips co-host 1426 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:32,410 Chris O'Brien has been there himself and 1427 01:07:36,420 --> 01:07:34,930 has done lots of on scene investigations 1428 01:07:38,460 --> 01:07:36,430 he's not someone who just sits in the 1429 01:07:39,690 --> 01:07:38,470 armchair and writes books about it he 1430 01:07:42,390 --> 01:07:39,700 writes the books and he does the 1431 01:07:45,690 --> 01:07:42,400 research I'm gene steinberger in the 1432 01:07:48,329 --> 01:07:45,700 power cast so Ted as we broke for our 1433 01:07:50,339 --> 01:07:48,339 last segment we were asked a question 1434 01:07:52,890 --> 01:07:50,349 about strange creatures seen in 1435 01:07:54,900 --> 01:07:52,900 connection with the research into Marley 1436 01:07:57,329 --> 01:07:54,910 woods what are we talking about here we 1437 01:07:59,250 --> 01:07:57,339 talk about Sasquatch things or like that 1438 01:08:01,829 --> 01:07:59,260 are we talking about maybe entities seen 1439 01:08:04,250 --> 01:08:01,839 in connection with UFO cases well it's 1440 01:08:08,579 --> 01:08:04,260 actually quite different from the the 1441 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:08,589 Bigfoot things which I've been really 1442 01:08:14,609 --> 01:08:11,410 reluctant to accept as valid 1443 01:08:16,459 --> 01:08:14,619 I shouldn't be I guess you know the main 1444 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:16,469 argument is well why don't we find 1445 01:08:23,700 --> 01:08:20,410 traces of them well tracks footprints 1446 01:08:25,590 --> 01:08:23,710 have been found and I've seen a lot of 1447 01:08:29,459 --> 01:08:25,600 casts which are extremely interesting 1448 01:08:34,470 --> 01:08:29,469 but I wondered as the years went by at 1449 01:08:39,510 --> 01:08:34,480 Marling why there are very few if any 1450 01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:39,520 reports of humanoids and which generally 1451 01:08:44,269 --> 01:08:41,410 goes along you know over a period of 1452 01:08:47,729 --> 01:08:44,279 years with this stuff well they're 1453 01:08:51,150 --> 01:08:47,739 starting and which is one of the things 1454 01:08:54,780 --> 01:08:51,160 that is very interesting to me story 1455 01:08:57,150 --> 01:08:54,790 ends the morning starting yeah boy yeah 1456 01:09:01,459 --> 01:08:57,160 what do you mean by that well we've had 1457 01:09:05,070 --> 01:09:01,469 a handful not many a handful of humanoid 1458 01:09:07,499 --> 01:09:05,080 observations I think probably the the 1459 01:09:11,329 --> 01:09:07,509 folks the witnesses involved would be 1460 01:09:13,730 --> 01:09:11,339 even reluctant to tell me if they saw 1461 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:13,740 something human-like 1462 01:09:17,420 --> 01:09:15,210 take more and more and more becoming a 1463 01:09:19,670 --> 01:09:17,430 little more comfortable as a reports 1464 01:09:22,190 --> 01:09:19,680 command in other words it's not just me 1465 01:09:24,770 --> 01:09:22,200 and you know if they can find some 1466 01:09:26,770 --> 01:09:24,780 companionship in other witnesses it 1467 01:09:31,580 --> 01:09:26,780 makes them a little more comfortable but 1468 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:31,590 first of all the the animal it'll be two 1469 01:09:38,060 --> 01:09:35,010 years ago this fall that one of the 1470 01:09:42,350 --> 01:09:38,070 ranchers out watching his cattle herd 1471 01:09:45,830 --> 01:09:42,360 saw two large white as he described them 1472 01:09:47,270 --> 01:09:45,840 dogs and I knew when he was telling me 1473 01:09:50,590 --> 01:09:47,280 about it it had to be something really 1474 01:09:53,780 --> 01:09:50,600 odd because he's seen plenty of God and 1475 01:09:57,020 --> 01:09:53,790 he said I saw what was odd about it he 1476 01:10:00,710 --> 01:09:57,030 said well they had really long white 1477 01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:00,720 hair and he said it was so long that it 1478 01:10:06,230 --> 01:10:04,320 shifted as they took a step and the 1479 01:10:10,130 --> 01:10:06,240 color would change kind of like an 1480 01:10:12,770 --> 01:10:10,140 iridescent effect and he said and the 1481 01:10:16,850 --> 01:10:12,780 size and as well how big and he said 1482 01:10:19,610 --> 01:10:16,860 well 400 pounds and I said this is a dog 1483 01:10:22,970 --> 01:10:19,620 and he said 400 pounds I have an old 1484 01:10:26,420 --> 01:10:22,980 english sheepdog that's 150 and if she 1485 01:10:30,530 --> 01:10:26,430 was 400 boy that's a lot of animal but 1486 01:10:32,540 --> 01:10:30,540 so anyway he takes a rifle and he's 1487 01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:32,550 afraid since these things are so large 1488 01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:34,290 and in the field of cattle II might kill 1489 01:10:40,580 --> 01:10:38,130 one or two or several and so he shoots 1490 01:10:44,330 --> 01:10:40,590 and here we're coming back to the 1491 01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:44,340 skinwalker business - he shoots and he 1492 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:46,650 said I made it red in other words 1493 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:49,770 through the telescopic sight he saw what 1494 01:10:56,690 --> 01:10:53,010 looked like blood an area turned red but 1495 01:11:00,560 --> 01:10:56,700 the animals not the one that was hit or 1496 01:11:02,750 --> 01:11:00,570 the other one reacted to the shot or to 1497 01:11:06,890 --> 01:11:02,760 the impact they just kept casually 1498 01:11:09,020 --> 01:11:06,900 walking eventually they went through a 1499 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:09,030 fence and into the woods and that was 1500 01:11:15,470 --> 01:11:11,610 the end of that he went down to the area 1501 01:11:17,570 --> 01:11:15,480 no blood on the ground at all and he was 1502 01:11:20,420 --> 01:11:17,580 using a powerful rifle I mean this would 1503 01:11:24,340 --> 01:11:20,430 have done a lot of damage and so the 1504 01:11:27,380 --> 01:11:24,350 next day another rancher pretty close 1505 01:11:27,620 --> 01:11:27,390 reported that he had seen the same - or 1506 01:11:30,290 --> 01:11:27,630 what 1507 01:11:32,629 --> 01:11:30,300 look like the same - and they were fine 1508 01:11:35,510 --> 01:11:32,639 and no sign of blood on him or anything 1509 01:11:38,570 --> 01:11:35,520 they were about a hundred feet or a 1510 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:38,580 little more from him and seemed to be in 1511 01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:41,610 perfect condition so then all of a 1512 01:11:47,870 --> 01:11:44,850 sudden the ranch to the north starts 1513 01:11:49,490 --> 01:11:47,880 finding large clumps of white hair so 1514 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:49,500 they call me I immediately go down I 1515 01:11:56,450 --> 01:11:53,810 take samples and very very odd because 1516 01:12:02,600 --> 01:11:56,460 of course I used my Old English Sheepdog 1517 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:02,610 as a subject or victim and by mutilating 1518 01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:05,130 her fur and putting it along in the 1519 01:12:10,340 --> 01:12:08,370 microscope with the other and instantly 1520 01:12:13,250 --> 01:12:10,350 even I could see it was dramatically 1521 01:12:15,110 --> 01:12:13,260 different and so I started gathering all 1522 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:15,120 kinds of fur from all kinds of little 1523 01:12:21,890 --> 01:12:18,050 creatures and I did not harm any 'm and 1524 01:12:23,090 --> 01:12:21,900 i did the same microscopic observations 1525 01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:23,100 nothing matched 1526 01:12:32,090 --> 01:12:26,570 including a human ear this stuff then a 1527 01:12:34,189 --> 01:12:32,100 disc jockey on a radio station comes on 1528 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:34,199 the air and he's in that area and he 1529 01:12:41,149 --> 01:12:38,489 says I just saw something that I can't 1530 01:12:44,590 --> 01:12:41,159 believe and I know you won't he said I 1531 01:12:47,390 --> 01:12:44,600 saw a four or five hundred pound white 1532 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:47,400 animal and I just thought it was the 1533 01:12:51,709 --> 01:12:49,050 biggest dog I've ever seen in my life 1534 01:12:54,590 --> 01:12:51,719 until it stood up on his back feet and 1535 01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:54,600 he said it looked the only thing I could 1536 01:13:00,050 --> 01:12:57,330 describe it as would be a polar bear and 1537 01:13:03,260 --> 01:13:00,060 he said long long white hair and all 1538 01:13:05,899 --> 01:13:03,270 this but he said the head looked really 1539 01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:05,909 different and I haven't been able really 1540 01:13:09,620 --> 01:13:07,650 to get a good description of the head 1541 01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:09,630 from any of the people that have seen it 1542 01:13:16,100 --> 01:13:12,810 - Friends of the wife and I were driving 1543 01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:16,110 down one of the roads there and in the 1544 01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:17,850 middle of the road they see what they 1545 01:13:23,810 --> 01:13:20,400 estimated to be a five hundred pound or 1546 01:13:26,959 --> 01:13:23,820 more large white doglike thing except 1547 01:13:28,490 --> 01:13:26,969 they had looked different and standing 1548 01:13:30,379 --> 01:13:28,500 in the middle of the road and he slams 1549 01:13:33,620 --> 01:13:30,389 on the brakes they slide up to within 1550 01:13:35,629 --> 01:13:33,630 about 20 feet of it good view and he 1551 01:13:38,330 --> 01:13:35,639 said it turned its head and looked at 1552 01:13:40,740 --> 01:13:38,340 him and they just kind of mellowed out 1553 01:13:43,470 --> 01:13:40,750 they said you know it just 1554 01:13:47,700 --> 01:13:43,480 these and all of a sudden that jumped 1555 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:47,710 from the middle of a 24-foot road over 1556 01:13:55,110 --> 01:13:50,890 the 12 foot lane that they were in over 1557 01:13:59,040 --> 01:13:55,120 a ditch alongside the road and landed on 1558 01:14:02,820 --> 01:13:59,050 the embankment on the other side and 1559 01:14:05,070 --> 01:14:02,830 there was a woven wire fence it didn't 1560 01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:05,080 go over it it didn't go through it but 1561 01:14:09,780 --> 01:14:08,050 it was no longer there and believe it or 1562 01:14:12,690 --> 01:14:09,790 will you we actually have a photograph 1563 01:14:14,940 --> 01:14:12,700 of the thing they can buy the one of the 1564 01:14:18,510 --> 01:14:14,950 ranchers daughter daughters and her 1565 01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:18,520 husband in daylight and I got to tell 1566 01:14:22,890 --> 01:14:20,770 you it's pretty strange I think I'd be 1567 01:14:24,990 --> 01:14:22,900 the one let me ask you a fast question 1568 01:14:26,850 --> 01:14:25,000 here before we applied for our brief 1569 01:14:28,530 --> 01:14:26,860 break do you have a copy of this 1570 01:14:33,030 --> 01:14:28,540 photograph on display that we could see 1571 01:14:35,310 --> 01:14:33,040 it no I don't yet right now I have a new 1572 01:14:39,090 --> 01:14:35,320 website in the works which should be up 1573 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:39,100 in about two weeks and I'll be putting a 1574 01:14:46,890 --> 01:14:42,010 lot of this stuff on it including 1575 01:14:49,950 --> 01:14:46,900 photographs of the tracks plaster casts 1576 01:14:51,810 --> 01:14:49,960 of the tracks and the tracks in 1577 01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:51,820 themselves are amazing because they're 1578 01:15:01,800 --> 01:14:55,810 huge compared to any known animal living 1579 01:15:05,510 --> 01:15:01,810 in that area or in the US and they went 1580 01:15:09,150 --> 01:15:05,520 into the ground an inch and a half and 1581 01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:09,160 which indicated a pretty terrific amount 1582 01:15:18,350 --> 01:15:12,930 of weight one of the ranchers found a 1583 01:15:21,660 --> 01:15:18,360 trail of the tracks on ice across a 1584 01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:21,670 200-foot pond it walked directly across 1585 01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:25,090 the pond and it looked like in the 1586 01:15:30,690 --> 01:15:27,730 tracks that it had slipped going down 1587 01:15:32,970 --> 01:15:30,700 the embankment outside the pond Elise is 1588 01:15:34,770 --> 01:15:32,980 not a human at least is not superhuman 1589 01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:34,780 and we'll look at this creature case in 1590 01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:35,290 a moment 1591 01:15:39,570 --> 01:15:37,360 trace evidence researchers head Phillips 1592 01:15:42,300 --> 01:15:39,580 joining us this week our co-host is 1593 01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:42,310 Chris O'Brien I'm gene Steinberger in 1594 01:15:50,730 --> 01:15:43,690 the power cast 1595 01:15:56,980 --> 01:15:54,820 is there a secret UFO agenda to strange 1596 01:15:59,440 --> 01:15:56,990 creatures from the darkest corners of 1597 01:16:02,310 --> 01:15:59,450 the mind roam the earth is there 1598 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:02,320 evidence for mind control time travel or 1599 01:16:07,570 --> 01:16:05,930 devious government conspiracies find out 1600 01:16:10,210 --> 01:16:07,580 the inside scoop on the latest 1601 01:16:12,880 --> 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1694 01:20:08,590 --> 01:20:06,230 to the para cast let me tell you what 1695 01:20:12,130 --> 01:20:08,600 you're gonna hear stuff here that you 1696 01:20:15,430 --> 01:20:12,140 probably won't hear anywhere else hear 1697 01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:15,440 that George snoring I'm Jean Steinberger 1698 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:17,570 in the power cast our co-host is Chris 1699 01:20:23,950 --> 01:20:20,090 O'Brien Ted Phillips talking about 1700 01:20:25,540 --> 01:20:23,960 strange cases of strange creatures Chris 1701 01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:25,550 you want to pick up on that with him 1702 01:20:29,890 --> 01:20:28,130 yeah this is a this is pretty amazing 1703 01:20:32,050 --> 01:20:29,900 stuff to add special with photographic 1704 01:20:37,030 --> 01:20:32,060 evidence and physical trace evidence of 1705 01:20:38,860 --> 01:20:37,040 a huge oversized almost I don't know I 1706 01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:38,870 would know how to describe a creature 1707 01:20:43,540 --> 01:20:42,050 that that you've been describing it 1708 01:20:47,710 --> 01:20:43,550 almost sounds like me like the 1709 01:20:50,230 --> 01:20:47,720 skinwalker ranch event where the rancher 1710 01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:50,240 had this large oversized wolf that tried 1711 01:20:55,060 --> 01:20:52,130 to grab one of his calves to offense and 1712 01:20:58,870 --> 01:20:55,070 he at one point I think he shot at a 1713 01:21:02,710 --> 01:20:58,880 number of times yeah and the important 1714 01:21:07,390 --> 01:21:02,720 point in that one Chris is he didn't 1715 01:21:08,379 --> 01:21:07,400 just shoot it he shoved a 357 may to the 1716 01:21:11,679 --> 01:21:08,389 side of the thing 1717 01:21:14,589 --> 01:21:11,689 shot three times right and there was no 1718 01:21:16,959 --> 01:21:14,599 blood there was no real reaction like 1719 01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:16,969 jumping in the air or making any screams 1720 01:21:22,750 --> 01:21:20,090 but he did turn loose the cow's head 1721 01:21:25,419 --> 01:21:22,760 that was a good thing and as it walked 1722 01:21:29,529 --> 01:21:25,429 off from him he his wife and their grown 1723 01:21:33,790 --> 01:21:29,539 son all saw this and as it walked away 1724 01:21:38,199 --> 01:21:33,800 from he got a 30.6 the rifle and shot it 1725 01:21:41,529 --> 01:21:38,209 a couple more times with as in the white 1726 01:21:44,379 --> 01:21:41,539 animals at Marley no reaction by the 1727 01:21:47,259 --> 01:21:44,389 animal but it was leaving tracks in the 1728 01:21:50,649 --> 01:21:47,269 light snow and they follow the tracks 1729 01:21:52,870 --> 01:21:50,659 into a grove of trees and they go on out 1730 01:21:56,620 --> 01:21:52,880 into a field to go out into feel about 1731 01:22:00,029 --> 01:21:56,630 30 feet and end so you know we're not 1732 01:22:03,100 --> 01:22:00,039 dealing with any kind of normal animal 1733 01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:03,110 just a description you know and I have 1734 01:22:07,989 --> 01:22:06,169 received three different witnesses 1735 01:22:12,429 --> 01:22:07,999 well actually would come to eight 1736 01:22:16,359 --> 01:22:12,439 witnesses in the three events of seeing 1737 01:22:18,790 --> 01:22:16,369 this thing walking upright and the 1738 01:22:20,500 --> 01:22:18,800 tracks bear that out one of the ranchers 1739 01:22:22,959 --> 01:22:20,510 says hunted and has seen just about 1740 01:22:26,589 --> 01:22:22,969 every kind of animal from here to Alaska 1741 01:22:28,899 --> 01:22:26,599 and I was at one end of the trail of 1742 01:22:30,609 --> 01:22:28,909 tracks he was at the other and I said do 1743 01:22:33,909 --> 01:22:30,619 you see anything a little odd about 1744 01:22:36,729 --> 01:22:33,919 these tracks and he looks and he looks 1745 01:22:39,580 --> 01:22:36,739 and he says this thing was on two feet 1746 01:22:41,819 --> 01:22:39,590 and I said yeah so I don't know I don't 1747 01:22:44,799 --> 01:22:41,829 know I'm not saying it's a white Bigfoot 1748 01:22:47,199 --> 01:22:44,809 or anything like that but when you've 1749 01:22:50,679 --> 01:22:47,209 got a photograph in daylight and all the 1750 01:22:52,870 --> 01:22:50,689 tracks and the hair and all this pretty 1751 01:22:56,350 --> 01:22:52,880 interesting stuff what do you think is 1752 01:22:58,060 --> 01:22:56,360 going on here Ted you know the you know 1753 01:23:00,489 --> 01:22:58,070 I know I know that's a 64 million dollar 1754 01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:00,499 question but you know in the case of the 1755 01:23:05,739 --> 01:23:02,570 skinwalker ranch for instance you know 1756 01:23:08,189 --> 01:23:05,749 Terry Sherman and and his family on 1757 01:23:11,589 --> 01:23:08,199 numerous occasions observed what they 1758 01:23:15,009 --> 01:23:11,599 described as a an aperture like opening 1759 01:23:17,409 --> 01:23:15,019 about 40 feet that would that would like 1760 01:23:19,449 --> 01:23:17,419 a you know like a would open from the 1761 01:23:20,060 --> 01:23:19,459 center and then create this what 1762 01:23:22,460 --> 01:23:20,070 appeared to be 1763 01:23:25,340 --> 01:23:22,470 opening in the sky fairly close to the 1764 01:23:27,710 --> 01:23:25,350 ground you have any sort of descriptions 1765 01:23:31,850 --> 01:23:27,720 from witnesses in the area of a similar 1766 01:23:35,380 --> 01:23:31,860 type of a phenomenon absolutely and I'm 1767 01:23:39,890 --> 01:23:35,390 totally overwhelmed when I see things 1768 01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:39,900 starting to happen that happened and are 1769 01:23:46,010 --> 01:23:43,050 happening at skinwalker there is what 1770 01:23:51,620 --> 01:23:46,020 the owner calls the North mystery light 1771 01:23:55,930 --> 01:23:51,630 and this is a an oval orange amber light 1772 01:24:00,110 --> 01:23:55,940 source very smooth very sharp edges and 1773 01:24:03,140 --> 01:24:00,120 it's elongated to the horizontal and it 1774 01:24:06,410 --> 01:24:03,150 appears down at the treetops in this 1775 01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:06,420 very same spot sometimes it will appear 1776 01:24:11,750 --> 01:24:08,970 just one night and then it's a week or 1777 01:24:14,030 --> 01:24:11,760 weeks two nights in a row four nights in 1778 01:24:16,250 --> 01:24:14,040 a row and then this weeks but I have 1779 01:24:19,130 --> 01:24:16,260 seen and photographed this thing a 1780 01:24:20,900 --> 01:24:19,140 number of times it's been reported it's 1781 01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:20,910 been observed for a hundred and 1782 01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:25,530 seventeen times this thing looking at it 1783 01:24:31,820 --> 01:24:29,610 through binoculars is precisely like the 1784 01:24:34,610 --> 01:24:31,830 guy at skinwalker described if you 1785 01:24:36,590 --> 01:24:34,620 remember it would appear in exactly the 1786 01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:36,600 same spot and he would go to the same 1787 01:24:41,060 --> 01:24:39,090 tree stump raise his arm on that tree 1788 01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:41,070 stump and look at it through the 1789 01:24:48,530 --> 01:24:44,130 telescopic sight on a rifle and he could 1790 01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:48,540 see in this what looked like blue sky 1791 01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:51,930 and trees are some sort of terrain like 1792 01:24:57,260 --> 01:24:55,410 he was looking into another world and I 1793 01:24:58,610 --> 01:24:57,270 haven't seen that in the mystery light 1794 01:25:01,610 --> 01:24:58,620 but every time I look at it I'm 1795 01:25:04,070 --> 01:25:01,620 expecting to and there is on the 1796 01:25:08,870 --> 01:25:04,080 opposite side to the south of the same 1797 01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:08,880 area a tremendously brilliant white 1798 01:25:14,660 --> 01:25:12,210 light that comes on and we've observed 1799 01:25:17,330 --> 01:25:14,670 that for several times for up to an hour 1800 01:25:22,940 --> 01:25:17,340 and a half and we've tried to approach 1801 01:25:26,170 --> 01:25:22,950 it and the one rancher would watch and 1802 01:25:29,300 --> 01:25:26,180 he would see our headlights come on to 1803 01:25:32,690 --> 01:25:29,310 another property eight tenths of a mile 1804 01:25:34,050 --> 01:25:32,700 away and he'd say okay you're six or 1805 01:25:36,810 --> 01:25:34,060 eight hundred feet from it 1806 01:25:39,780 --> 01:25:36,820 to the side and we couldn't see it and 1807 01:25:42,810 --> 01:25:39,790 this thing was so bright that it totally 1808 01:25:45,780 --> 01:25:42,820 wiped out the light monitoring system on 1809 01:25:50,450 --> 01:25:45,790 my camcorder eight tenths of a mile away 1810 01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:50,460 and it had to reboot for a better term 1811 01:25:55,530 --> 01:25:53,170 because this was so tremendously bright 1812 01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:55,540 and it turned the most intense red 1813 01:26:00,870 --> 01:25:57,370 you've ever seen at the peak of 1814 01:26:03,090 --> 01:26:00,880 brilliance so we went everywhere up 1815 01:26:06,390 --> 01:26:03,100 there and he would guide us and we would 1816 01:26:09,690 --> 01:26:06,400 get almost to the to the object and he'd 1817 01:26:13,500 --> 01:26:09,700 say it's starting to move and it would 1818 01:26:15,630 --> 01:26:13,510 move away and this went on and on and so 1819 01:26:17,250 --> 01:26:15,640 I said well let's get back to the 1820 01:26:19,860 --> 01:26:17,260 cameras and we know we can get shots 1821 01:26:22,620 --> 01:26:19,870 let's be sure we're getting them because 1822 01:26:26,900 --> 01:26:22,630 the camcorder was still running over at 1823 01:26:31,530 --> 01:26:26,910 the original site and on the the video 1824 01:26:34,410 --> 01:26:31,540 you can frame by frame see the changes 1825 01:26:38,190 --> 01:26:34,420 you can see the silhouettes of tree 1826 01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:38,200 trunks in front of it and I obtained one 1827 01:26:45,780 --> 01:26:41,050 photograph that shows this kind of 1828 01:26:48,510 --> 01:26:45,790 vertical brilliance and behind it 1829 01:26:52,740 --> 01:26:48,520 one thing you could only describe is 1830 01:26:56,480 --> 01:26:52,750 like a dome that's on the ground behind 1831 01:27:00,590 --> 01:26:56,490 these trees and the dome is made up of 1832 01:27:05,460 --> 01:27:00,600 quite a number of oval amber lights and 1833 01:27:07,650 --> 01:27:05,470 this thing is large and it looks to me 1834 01:27:11,070 --> 01:27:07,660 like a structured craft with this 1835 01:27:16,980 --> 01:27:11,080 brilliant light on whatever section is 1836 01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:16,990 is aiming south or north and so I have a 1837 01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:20,530 feeling and Chris you know I would be 1838 01:27:27,030 --> 01:27:22,650 want to be reluctant to talk about 1839 01:27:28,950 --> 01:27:27,040 portals but you got to go where the data 1840 01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:28,960 point where it just sounds like 1841 01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:31,930 something's opening up and someone at 1842 01:27:36,540 --> 01:27:33,610 EMP Sherman ranch case said that you're 1843 01:27:38,430 --> 01:27:36,550 dealing with some sort of doorway it's 1844 01:27:39,290 --> 01:27:38,440 almost like the shaman ranch decided to 1845 01:27:44,329 --> 01:27:39,300 move to Missouri 1846 01:27:47,719 --> 01:27:44,339 well either that or it has a brother 1847 01:27:51,770 --> 01:27:47,729 something you know I go back to the big 1848 01:27:57,169 --> 01:27:51,780 animal you're asking you know what is it 1849 01:27:59,389 --> 01:27:57,179 why and the more I'm convinced strange 1850 01:28:04,939 --> 01:27:59,399 for me to say but the more I'm convinced 1851 01:28:08,270 --> 01:28:04,949 that these portals openings exist I my 1852 01:28:12,250 --> 01:28:08,280 belief now is based on the facts as I 1853 01:28:15,199 --> 01:28:12,260 can tell that these things open up 1854 01:28:19,429 --> 01:28:15,209 obviously I would guess to allow things 1855 01:28:22,629 --> 01:28:19,439 to come through or to go into to make a 1856 01:28:25,309 --> 01:28:22,639 connection to God only knows where and 1857 01:28:27,559 --> 01:28:25,319 sometimes if they're open up you know an 1858 01:28:30,589 --> 01:28:27,569 hour and a half two hours 1859 01:28:33,349 --> 01:28:30,599 why couldn't something from that point 1860 01:28:36,589 --> 01:28:33,359 of origin just kind of stumble through 1861 01:28:39,349 --> 01:28:36,599 okay and so you were crawling through 1862 01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:39,359 like the I gangs or or crawl through 1863 01:28:44,869 --> 01:28:42,449 like the physicist allegedly saw fit in 1864 01:28:47,329 --> 01:28:44,879 Utah where it appeared to be a humanoid 1865 01:28:49,189 --> 01:28:47,339 form that kind of like crawled and 1866 01:28:51,969 --> 01:28:49,199 alerts through the opening 1867 01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:51,979 dad this is this is probably I think 1868 01:28:56,179 --> 01:28:54,449 this and the Sherman ranch case in a 1869 01:28:59,869 --> 01:28:56,189 couple of cases that I investigated 1870 01:29:03,409 --> 01:28:59,879 sound sound to be real important 1871 01:29:05,149 --> 01:29:03,419 Keystone cases and I'm you know I think 1872 01:29:07,939 --> 01:29:05,159 I speak for our audience when I say we 1873 01:29:09,500 --> 01:29:07,949 really admire and appreciate all the 1874 01:29:11,719 --> 01:29:09,510 hard work that you're putting in on this 1875 01:29:14,869 --> 01:29:11,729 particular case having been there and 1876 01:29:17,449 --> 01:29:14,879 and done that so to speak in the field I 1877 01:29:18,559 --> 01:29:17,459 know that it's a it just takes a 1878 01:29:21,079 --> 01:29:18,569 tremendous amount of time and 1879 01:29:23,809 --> 01:29:21,089 organization to to do this type of work 1880 01:29:25,429 --> 01:29:23,819 okay what we'll pick up on this work and 1881 01:29:28,250 --> 01:29:25,439 some of the other implications in a 1882 01:29:31,569 --> 01:29:28,260 moment our guest is Ted Phillips he is a 1883 01:29:33,859 --> 01:29:31,579 UFO and paranormal trace evidence 1884 01:29:36,109 --> 01:29:33,869 investigator he's seen obviously quite a 1885 01:29:39,079 --> 01:29:36,119 few unusual things the co-host Chris 1886 01:29:46,700 --> 01:29:39,089 O'Brien I'm gene steinberger in the para 1887 01:29:52,990 --> 01:29:49,590 [Music] 1888 01:29:55,690 --> 01:29:53,000 Ray Perkins a reclusive veteran burned 1889 01:29:57,990 --> 01:29:55,700 out from the Gulf War lives tortured by 1890 01:30:00,370 --> 01:29:58,000 relentless perplexing nightmares 1891 01:30:02,290 --> 01:30:00,380 nightmares of a horrific battle in deep 1892 01:30:04,540 --> 01:30:02,300 space and of a mysterious woman 1893 01:30:07,690 --> 01:30:04,550 suffering in agony for her devastated 1894 01:30:11,550 --> 01:30:07,700 world a woman not yet born calling 1895 01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:11,560 across centuries to him then a 1896 01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:14,210 coincidence leads into his destiny his 1897 01:30:19,690 --> 01:30:17,570 chance to alter the universe attack of 1898 01:30:21,940 --> 01:30:19,700 the rock lurks the former fiction editor 1899 01:30:24,250 --> 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01:32:50,760 independence question what would you 1969 01:32:54,440 --> 01:32:52,650 rather drink acidic water which burns 1970 01:32:56,540 --> 01:32:54,450 holes in your body and causes loss of 1971 01:32:58,550 --> 01:32:56,550 bone mass or alkaline water which 1972 01:33:00,290 --> 01:32:58,560 promotes high energy and vibrant health 1973 01:33:02,180 --> 01:33:00,300 the answer is clear and if you're 1974 01:33:04,100 --> 01:33:02,190 drinking acidic water you're helping 1975 01:33:06,530 --> 01:33:04,110 cancer cells and bacteria to grow out of 1976 01:33:08,750 --> 01:33:06,540 control Alka vision plasma pH drops 1977 01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:08,760 combine a unique formula of the most 1978 01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:11,250 alkaline minerals using plasma pH drops 1979 01:33:15,980 --> 01:33:13,530 is the best way to alkalize your water 1980 01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:15,990 and help you get rid of acid and regain 1981 01:33:19,790 --> 01:33:17,970 your health and energy simply put 10 1982 01:33:22,220 --> 01:33:19,800 drops in the water you drink to raise 1983 01:33:24,170 --> 01:33:22,230 the pH to a healthy alkaline level most 1984 01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:24,180 experts agree that the water you drink 1985 01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:26,370 should be at a ph level of 8 or higher 1986 01:33:31,550 --> 01:33:29,370 disease organisms like bacteria viruses 1987 01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:31,560 or cancer cannot survive in an alkaline 1988 01:33:36,740 --> 01:33:34,050 high ph environment order your bottle of 1989 01:33:39,830 --> 01:33:36,750 alkaviva plasma pH drops now by going 1990 01:33:43,730 --> 01:33:39,840 directly to alcove in calm that's al k a 1991 01:33:50,660 --> 01:33:43,740 vision calm or by calling 2 6 9 or 0 9 1992 01:33:55,310 --> 01:33:50,670 1776 again to 69 or 0-9 1776 tired of 1993 01:34:01,750 --> 01:33:55,320 searching for great talk-radio here we 1994 01:34:11,870 --> 01:34:04,820 you're in the darkest you never know 1995 01:34:14,959 --> 01:34:11,880 what's going to happen next we return 1996 01:34:17,030 --> 01:34:14,969 with Ted Phillips we're looking over the 1997 01:34:19,220 --> 01:34:17,040 strange events over at Marly woods 1998 01:34:20,930 --> 01:34:19,230 somewhere in the u.s. we're not saying 1999 01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:20,940 where because of privacy and 2000 01:34:25,189 --> 01:34:23,250 confidentiality but lots of weird stuffs 2001 01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:25,199 going on there the co-host is Chris 2002 01:34:31,100 --> 01:34:27,690 O'Brien I'm gene Steinberg you're in the 2003 01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:31,110 power cast earlier Ted you were talking 2004 01:34:36,370 --> 01:34:34,410 about humanoids seen in that particular 2005 01:34:38,959 --> 01:34:36,380 region okay let's talk about humanoids 2006 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:38,969 what precisely are we talking about here 2007 01:34:47,450 --> 01:34:42,810 UFO greys human beings cave men from the 2008 01:34:50,030 --> 01:34:47,460 Geico commercials what well I expect to 2009 01:34:51,919 --> 01:34:50,040 see some of those even in specially the 2010 01:34:54,169 --> 01:34:51,929 kingdom the Geico commercial because it 2011 01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:54,179 failed as a TV show so we've got to 2012 01:34:59,930 --> 01:34:55,010 bring them back 2013 01:35:02,410 --> 01:34:59,940 absolutely absolutely good guys but I 2014 01:35:06,380 --> 01:35:02,420 like the presents anyway 2015 01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:06,390 initially the humanoid thing which again 2016 01:35:14,510 --> 01:35:08,610 now is not big there yet but I am 2017 01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:14,520 feeling a lady who ran a childcare 2018 01:35:20,300 --> 01:35:18,690 daycare center out in the woods out to 2019 01:35:22,370 --> 01:35:20,310 well she didn't live in the woods but 2020 01:35:27,430 --> 01:35:22,380 her house is way out in the wooded area 2021 01:35:30,860 --> 01:35:27,440 and one of the kids was out in the yard 2022 01:35:36,260 --> 01:35:30,870 playing with a basketball and was 2023 01:35:42,590 --> 01:35:36,270 daylight and he sees a tall very tall 2024 01:35:45,110 --> 01:35:42,600 thin humanoid go over a fence six-foot 2025 01:35:48,850 --> 01:35:45,120 fence didn't jump he just kind of 2026 01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:48,860 floated over the thing in one step and 2027 01:35:54,229 --> 01:35:51,449 came down on the other side he stood 2028 01:35:58,820 --> 01:35:54,239 there and looked at the kid and the the 2029 01:36:02,990 --> 01:35:58,830 figure had a black sort of cloak and a 2030 01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:03,000 black hood which is kind of odd for the 2031 01:36:08,470 --> 01:36:06,810 summer in the woods it would be pretty 2032 01:36:10,900 --> 01:36:08,480 uncomfortable 2033 01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:10,910 the thing walks right up to the kid 2034 01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:13,970 takes the basketball and turns around 2035 01:36:19,660 --> 01:36:17,210 and heads foots way back well the kids 2036 01:36:23,410 --> 01:36:19,670 are screaming not afraid of the thing 2037 01:36:27,730 --> 01:36:23,420 but mad and so the lady comes out she 2038 01:36:30,370 --> 01:36:27,740 grabs a shotgun and she said I hit it I 2039 01:36:34,450 --> 01:36:30,380 had to says that shotgun doesn't miss 2040 01:36:36,610 --> 01:36:34,460 and it didn't even react it floated over 2041 01:36:40,210 --> 01:36:36,620 the fence and went on back through the 2042 01:36:41,890 --> 01:36:40,220 woods and then another report comes 2043 01:36:45,430 --> 01:36:41,900 along from a good friend of mine over 2044 01:36:51,580 --> 01:36:45,440 there that I would believe about 2045 01:36:53,350 --> 01:36:51,590 anything he was walking home and from a 2046 01:36:56,470 --> 01:36:53,360 friend's house about a quarter of a mile 2047 01:37:00,280 --> 01:36:56,480 and he sat down on a rock to have a 2048 01:37:04,990 --> 01:37:00,290 cigarette and he sees very quietly 2049 01:37:08,380 --> 01:37:05,000 passing as Kennedy can probably a group 2050 01:37:10,630 --> 01:37:08,390 of these tall thin figures with the 2051 01:37:15,340 --> 01:37:10,640 black cloaks and so on and they were 2052 01:37:17,440 --> 01:37:15,350 walking in a line and just walked in 2053 01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:17,450 front of him didn't react to him being 2054 01:37:22,150 --> 01:37:19,850 there or anything and they walked on 2055 01:37:26,410 --> 01:37:22,160 down a little pass and and we're gone 2056 01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:26,420 and so anyway I talked to the lady with 2057 01:37:34,780 --> 01:37:29,810 the shotgun very solid person she filed 2058 01:37:37,750 --> 01:37:34,790 a report with the sheriff and sheriff 2059 01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:37,760 said you know does she's reliable person 2060 01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:43,370 and so nothing else really happened with 2061 01:37:54,310 --> 01:37:49,130 the humanoids until January the 15th of 2062 01:37:59,830 --> 01:37:54,320 this year and I had the distinct 2063 01:38:02,980 --> 01:37:59,840 pleasure of kind of seeing one and I'm 2064 01:38:06,190 --> 01:38:02,990 not really saying anything more than 2065 01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:06,200 that about it right now because it 2066 01:38:11,830 --> 01:38:08,690 involves the personal observation and I 2067 01:38:14,620 --> 01:38:11,840 want to be damn sure that I've got 2068 01:38:16,490 --> 01:38:14,630 everything straight before I say it is 2069 01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:16,500 or it is not you know 2070 01:38:20,480 --> 01:38:18,330 a thing that occurs to me with all this 2071 01:38:23,060 --> 01:38:20,490 now it seems they're oblivious to 2072 01:38:25,310 --> 01:38:23,070 anything that's going on around them by 2073 01:38:27,830 --> 01:38:25,320 the same token because of maybe the 2074 01:38:29,750 --> 01:38:27,840 emotional furor in that area over weird 2075 01:38:31,910 --> 01:38:29,760 things happening could they just be 2076 01:38:35,110 --> 01:38:31,920 normal people putting on hoods and 2077 01:38:37,610 --> 01:38:35,120 playing around trying to fool people 2078 01:38:41,150 --> 01:38:37,620 well you know I would agree with that 2079 01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:41,160 and that was my first thought until I 2080 01:38:47,510 --> 01:38:44,850 saw the shotgun and believe me the 2081 01:38:50,330 --> 01:38:47,520 distance from the lady who was on the 2082 01:38:53,480 --> 01:38:50,340 porch to the point where this figure was 2083 01:38:56,030 --> 01:38:53,490 at when she shot it it without question 2084 01:38:59,120 --> 01:38:56,040 should have been a mutilated humanoid 2085 01:39:01,070 --> 01:38:59,130 she the banasur little reacted to the 2086 01:39:05,540 --> 01:39:01,080 shotgun blacks and next time I know I 2087 01:39:07,010 --> 01:39:05,550 just say yeah ex yeah very definitely an 2088 01:39:08,420 --> 01:39:07,020 egg there have been a lot of physical 2089 01:39:11,300 --> 01:39:08,430 evidence yeah 2090 01:39:13,820 --> 01:39:11,310 plus what about the basketball I mean if 2091 01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:13,830 that's not a trigger event I I don't 2092 01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:16,650 know you know what is why would a tall 2093 01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:19,290 thin hooded cloak humanoid float over a 2094 01:39:23,510 --> 01:39:21,810 611 fans walk up to a kid playing with a 2095 01:39:26,270 --> 01:39:23,520 basketball take the basketball turn 2096 01:39:28,370 --> 01:39:26,280 around and leave something yeah I'd like 2097 01:39:30,260 --> 01:39:28,380 to have a better day it's a pickup game 2098 01:39:32,090 --> 01:39:30,270 Lacey almond don't you another from the 2099 01:39:38,630 --> 01:39:32,100 hood and this is a pickup basketball 2100 01:39:40,130 --> 01:39:38,640 game I'm sorry I just had to use it 2101 01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:40,140 sounds like the trickster to me I don't 2102 01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:41,970 know and if there's groups of trooping 2103 01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:43,410 tricksters I think that's even more 2104 01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:46,010 amazing okay can we get all our features 2105 01:39:49,910 --> 01:39:48,210 described here do we just see the hoods 2106 01:39:52,310 --> 01:39:49,920 and the tall thin beings that are 2107 01:39:54,440 --> 01:39:52,320 human-like or do they have five fingers 2108 01:39:57,710 --> 01:39:54,450 etcetera etcetera can we see those 2109 01:39:59,570 --> 01:39:57,720 details well that was a problem with 2110 01:40:02,540 --> 01:39:59,580 this good friend he was sitting in the 2111 01:40:04,130 --> 01:40:02,550 dark and he could see the the figures go 2112 01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:04,140 by but he couldn't really see any 2113 01:40:11,650 --> 01:40:08,610 details and the kid and the shotgun lady 2114 01:40:14,390 --> 01:40:11,660 just simply said couldn't see a face and 2115 01:40:19,190 --> 01:40:14,400 so that doesn't necessarily mean there 2116 01:40:22,820 --> 01:40:19,200 was nothing in the cloak but I'll tell 2117 01:40:26,510 --> 01:40:22,830 you one thing that I've seen in great 2118 01:40:29,020 --> 01:40:26,520 abundance down through the 46 years with 2119 01:40:32,290 --> 01:40:29,030 trace cases and other cases 2120 01:40:36,370 --> 01:40:32,300 is that you're talking about like a 2121 01:40:40,089 --> 01:40:36,380 trickster and I have seen a lot of 2122 01:40:43,689 --> 01:40:40,099 things that we would consider tricks 2123 01:40:48,819 --> 01:40:43,699 being played on the witnesses and I've 2124 01:40:53,109 --> 01:40:48,829 also seen displays very strange displays 2125 01:40:54,299 --> 01:40:53,119 on the part of whatever this is to in my 2126 01:40:58,510 --> 01:40:54,309 mind 2127 01:41:01,180 --> 01:40:58,520 maintain some sort of control over the 2128 01:41:03,310 --> 01:41:01,190 reactions of the the owners of the 2129 01:41:06,330 --> 01:41:03,320 property I mean that was pretty obvious 2130 01:41:11,859 --> 01:41:06,340 in skinwalker I've seen it in Marley and 2131 01:41:15,339 --> 01:41:11,869 you do something so extreme that the 2132 01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:15,349 witness has to be really set back on his 2133 01:41:21,399 --> 01:41:19,730 heels and and somewhat frightened so I 2134 01:41:26,020 --> 01:41:21,409 think there's a method for the madness 2135 01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:26,030 and since I don't know who they are or 2136 01:41:30,220 --> 01:41:28,610 where they're from exactly there are a 2137 01:41:33,129 --> 01:41:30,230 lot of questions that I cannot yet 2138 01:41:36,910 --> 01:41:33,139 answer now if in the future we can 2139 01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:36,920 disable a light ball or figure out some 2140 01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:40,489 way to pin down a humanoid or a 2141 01:41:46,959 --> 01:41:43,610 500-pound animal will be able to tell 2142 01:41:49,020 --> 01:41:46,969 you something definitive it's it's just 2143 01:41:51,700 --> 01:41:49,030 like this whole business it's always 2144 01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:51,710 just beyond your fingertips 2145 01:41:58,330 --> 01:41:55,010 what about so patience to the humanoids 2146 01:42:01,779 --> 01:41:58,340 make any effort to communicate by speech 2147 01:42:05,319 --> 01:42:01,789 telepathy something no not about in the 2148 01:42:08,140 --> 01:42:05,329 Marley stuff no okay now do you see in 2149 01:42:11,229 --> 01:42:08,150 your research this kind of being in 2150 01:42:16,029 --> 01:42:11,239 other so-called window or portal areas 2151 01:42:18,879 --> 01:42:16,039 around the country well I I can recall I 2152 01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:18,889 couldn't I couldn't pull up the specific 2153 01:42:24,220 --> 01:42:22,250 cases but I have on file in some of the 2154 01:42:28,510 --> 01:42:24,230 trace cases back through the years this 2155 01:42:35,979 --> 01:42:28,520 is a long period of very tall like 2156 01:42:39,250 --> 01:42:35,989 7-foot thin human-like beings in the 2157 01:42:41,020 --> 01:42:39,260 dark shrouds and so on yeah I have I 2158 01:42:41,759 --> 01:42:41,030 have ran across those cases they're not 2159 01:42:45,009 --> 01:42:41,769 plentiful 2160 01:42:47,169 --> 01:42:45,019 no they and I I really never paid a lot 2161 01:42:48,759 --> 01:42:47,179 of attention to really yeah there were 2162 01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:48,769 some in the seventies Keith Wolverton 2163 01:42:53,859 --> 01:42:51,050 the sheriff up in Montana had a couple 2164 01:42:55,299 --> 01:42:53,869 of cases where hooded dark dark hooded 2165 01:42:58,799 --> 01:42:55,309 figures was seen around cattle 2166 01:43:01,029 --> 01:42:58,809 mutilation sites david purlins yeah 2167 01:43:03,609 --> 01:43:01,039 David of course you're not going to see 2168 01:43:06,250 --> 01:43:03,619 that mention in the the Ned's report 2169 01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:06,260 that they released on the Montana wave 2170 01:43:13,149 --> 01:43:10,010 of cattle death cases but David Perkins 2171 01:43:15,609 --> 01:43:13,159 also I think it was south of Pueblo 2172 01:43:18,129 --> 01:43:15,619 between Pueblo and Wallenberg witnessed 2173 01:43:20,290 --> 01:43:18,139 a line of what he called like hooded 2174 01:43:22,390 --> 01:43:20,300 monks walking along right in an area 2175 01:43:26,620 --> 01:43:22,400 where mutilated cattle had been had been 2176 01:43:28,149 --> 01:43:26,630 reported uh this say I'm you know if you 2177 01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:28,159 had said that they were holding Bibles 2178 01:43:31,689 --> 01:43:30,050 and then in chanting and hitting 2179 01:43:34,239 --> 01:43:31,699 themselves in the forehead like in the 2180 01:43:36,370 --> 01:43:34,249 the Monty Python movie that would almost 2181 01:43:38,919 --> 01:43:36,380 make more sense to me than than just 2182 01:43:40,270 --> 01:43:38,929 walking by in the dark and and not 2183 01:43:43,299 --> 01:43:40,280 acknowledging the presence of the 2184 01:43:46,899 --> 01:43:43,309 witness or walking up and taking a 2185 01:43:49,810 --> 01:43:46,909 basketball this is pretty uh this is 2186 01:43:53,169 --> 01:43:49,820 getting into some cross phenomenal type 2187 01:43:55,359 --> 01:43:53,179 of you know events that seem to be 2188 01:43:57,729 --> 01:43:55,369 related because of the proximity of the 2189 01:44:00,459 --> 01:43:57,739 events but but don't really make any 2190 01:44:02,350 --> 01:44:00,469 sense in terms of what you know other 2191 01:44:04,209 --> 01:44:02,360 types of things are being spotted what's 2192 01:44:05,919 --> 01:44:04,219 your thinking on this tat I mean you you 2193 01:44:08,770 --> 01:44:05,929 been there you've done that you've got 2194 01:44:11,140 --> 01:44:08,780 what it sounds like some you know 2195 01:44:13,569 --> 01:44:11,150 groundbreaking physical evidence and 2196 01:44:15,910 --> 01:44:13,579 visual evidence what what does your gut 2197 01:44:17,259 --> 01:44:15,920 tell you or suggest to you is going on 2198 01:44:19,390 --> 01:44:17,269 there I'll tell you what before we get 2199 01:44:22,089 --> 01:44:19,400 to gut feelings we have a break for the 2200 01:44:25,209 --> 01:44:22,099 hour and then maybe clean our guts as we 2201 01:44:27,939 --> 01:44:25,219 get ready for this Ted Phillips UFO 2202 01:44:31,330 --> 01:44:27,949 trace evidence researcher our co-host is 2203 01:44:35,070 --> 01:44:31,340 Chris O'Brien I'm gene steinberger in 2204 01:44:42,050 --> 01:44:39,370 [Music] 2205 01:44:43,970 --> 01:44:42,060 hi this is Ted Anderson if you own an 2206 01:44:46,250 --> 01:44:43,980 Apple iPhone and love to listen to your 2207 01:44:48,050 --> 01:44:46,260 favorite programs on GCM I've got good 2208 01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:48,060 news for you I'm proud to announce that 2209 01:44:52,940 --> 01:44:50,370 GCM has a brand new iPhone app available 2210 01:44:54,890 --> 01:44:52,950 for our dedicated listeners at GCM 2211 01:44:56,990 --> 01:44:54,900 live.com listen to your favorite 2212 01:44:59,060 --> 01:44:57,000 hard-hitting GCM programs live or 2213 01:45:01,400 --> 01:44:59,070 on-demand right on your iPhone and the 2214 01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:01,410 best part the gcn iphone app can be 2215 01:45:05,510 --> 01:45:03,690 yours absolutely free download the 2216 01:45:08,650 --> 01:45:05,520 iPhone app today by clicking on the 2217 01:45:11,420 --> 01:45:08,660 banner at GCN live.com again that's GCM 2218 01:45:13,070 --> 01:45:11,430 live.com hi this is 10 Andersen have you 2219 01:45:14,630 --> 01:45:13,080 ever wondered why banks stockbrokers 2220 01:45:16,730 --> 01:45:14,640 investment advisors won't talk about 2221 01:45:19,130 --> 01:45:16,740 gold IRAs they've been available since 2222 01:45:20,930 --> 01:45:19,140 1986 yet the financial industry won't 2223 01:45:22,820 --> 01:45:20,940 recognize the value of gold for your 2224 01:45:25,190 --> 01:45:22,830 retirement goal is outperform paper 2225 01:45:26,750 --> 01:45:25,200 investments yet no word about IRAs if 2226 01:45:30,440 --> 01:45:26,760 you would like to have gold for your 2227 01:45:32,300 --> 01:45:30,450 retirement call 866 2 2 3 7 don't get 2228 01:46:01,970 --> 01:45:32,310 left behind by rising inflation and low 2229 01:46:05,330 --> 01:46:01,980 returns call 806-853-9949 that's the 2230 01:46:11,390 --> 01:46:05,340 para caste calm or check us out on 2231 01:46:14,180 --> 01:46:11,400 iTunes Ted Phillips joins us we're 2232 01:46:16,550 --> 01:46:14,190 talking about physical evidence real 2233 01:46:19,820 --> 01:46:16,560 evidence of strange things going on 2234 01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:19,830 mostly at Marly woods our co-host is 2235 01:46:24,170 --> 01:46:21,930 Chris O'Brien I'm gene Steinberg you're 2236 01:46:26,630 --> 01:46:24,180 in the power cast and in our last hour 2237 01:46:29,620 --> 01:46:26,640 Chris posed the question what do you 2238 01:46:33,650 --> 01:46:29,630 make of all this Ted Phillips tell us 2239 01:46:36,710 --> 01:46:33,660 well what I make of it is that we're 2240 01:46:41,540 --> 01:46:36,720 looking at something that is real and 2241 01:46:45,100 --> 01:46:41,550 physical some of the time and it seems 2242 01:46:48,169 --> 01:46:45,110 that it can change frequency or whatever 2243 01:46:53,030 --> 01:46:48,179 and become entirely something else 2244 01:46:56,300 --> 01:46:53,040 and I saw for example on one of the 2245 01:47:00,169 --> 01:46:56,310 monitors a humanoid figure come up to a 2246 01:47:05,030 --> 01:47:00,179 gate and see very clearly and it had on 2247 01:47:09,140 --> 01:47:05,040 some sort of tight-fitting cover that 2248 01:47:12,020 --> 01:47:09,150 had a white cuff would be the only way I 2249 01:47:16,510 --> 01:47:12,030 could describe it at the end of the the 2250 01:47:19,820 --> 01:47:16,520 arm sleeves and it had a white 2251 01:47:23,959 --> 01:47:19,830 tight-fitting sort of helmet and the 2252 01:47:27,470 --> 01:47:23,969 face area was just black and I watched 2253 01:47:30,169 --> 01:47:27,480 this thing for about eight minutes and 2254 01:47:32,780 --> 01:47:30,179 as it stood there it was still like 2255 01:47:36,229 --> 01:47:32,790 walking in place you could see I 2256 01:47:39,919 --> 01:47:36,239 couldn't see the legs because it had 2257 01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:39,929 came up an incline and it was standing 2258 01:47:45,140 --> 01:47:42,449 where the legs were still below the the 2259 01:47:47,209 --> 01:47:45,150 bottom of the fence but you could tell 2260 01:47:51,410 --> 01:47:47,219 by the upper body motion that it was 2261 01:47:55,459 --> 01:47:51,420 still walking and the fence was 60 feet 2262 01:47:57,290 --> 01:47:55,469 from me and so I I called wife on the 2263 01:48:00,620 --> 01:47:57,300 phone I don't know why like she's going 2264 01:48:04,790 --> 01:48:00,630 to be able to see it but then described 2265 01:48:07,790 --> 01:48:04,800 it to her and I said you know I'm going 2266 01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:07,800 to walk out and get a really close look 2267 01:48:13,250 --> 01:48:10,650 at it well she wasn't too much up for 2268 01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:13,260 that but she couldn't stop me 300 miles 2269 01:48:21,530 --> 01:48:18,090 away so I took the 12-gauge sawed-off 2270 01:48:24,260 --> 01:48:21,540 shotgun and ambled out into the darkness 2271 01:48:27,169 --> 01:48:24,270 and I walked up to the point where this 2272 01:48:29,510 --> 01:48:27,179 thing was standing and there was nothing 2273 01:48:32,810 --> 01:48:29,520 and I looked all around there was 2274 01:48:35,540 --> 01:48:32,820 nothing and I went back to the monitor 2275 01:48:38,689 --> 01:48:35,550 and it was there and also I did this 2276 01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:38,699 several times and the really bizarre 2277 01:48:43,910 --> 01:48:41,489 thing is and it makes one kind of feel 2278 01:48:48,740 --> 01:48:43,920 like not even talking about a case like 2279 01:48:50,830 --> 01:48:48,750 this was that when I did the playback on 2280 01:48:53,379 --> 01:48:50,840 the video 2281 01:48:57,580 --> 01:48:53,389 as a boy I've got you now and there was 2282 01:49:00,160 --> 01:48:57,590 nothing on the video while the live feed 2283 01:49:02,500 --> 01:49:00,170 the the figure was there but it wasn't 2284 01:49:03,729 --> 01:49:02,510 it wasn't being recorded and when you 2285 01:49:05,609 --> 01:49:03,739 went out there it didn't seem to be 2286 01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:05,619 there either there any sort of a 2287 01:49:08,859 --> 01:49:07,610 footprints or any indication that's 2288 01:49:11,169 --> 01:49:08,869 something I've been saying in there or 2289 01:49:13,209 --> 01:49:11,179 moving there no and you know me that's 2290 01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:13,219 first thing I drill you dig around for 2291 01:49:19,149 --> 01:49:17,090 but here's here's the thing that makes 2292 01:49:23,129 --> 01:49:19,159 me feel a little better about my sanity 2293 01:49:26,589 --> 01:49:23,139 is the fact that for example skinwalker 2294 01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:26,599 I have it from from very good authority 2295 01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:30,610 that they would be standing there and 2296 01:49:36,879 --> 01:49:34,330 they put on like generation threes and 2297 01:49:39,370 --> 01:49:36,889 there would be a humanoid figure ten 2298 01:49:43,300 --> 01:49:39,380 feet in front of them and without that 2299 01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:43,310 they couldn't even see them and things 2300 01:49:48,970 --> 01:49:46,610 would walk by very unusual things five 2301 01:49:50,379 --> 01:49:48,980 feet away and not react to them at all 2302 01:49:53,140 --> 01:49:50,389 and so they didn't even know they were 2303 01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:53,150 there so I don't know I think we must 2304 01:49:59,800 --> 01:49:57,050 have a light frequency thing going on or 2305 01:50:03,120 --> 01:49:59,810 a dimensional thing 2306 01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:03,130 yes I'm sort of parallel reality almost 2307 01:50:07,540 --> 01:50:05,810 meshing together and sort of overlap 2308 01:50:09,220 --> 01:50:07,550 yeah and I can't believe I just said 2309 01:50:11,950 --> 01:50:09,230 that tell you the truth but yeah that 2310 01:50:13,839 --> 01:50:11,960 does that's always been a thing 2311 01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:13,849 you're about as nuts and bolts of guys 2312 01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:16,489 I've ever met out out in this field and 2313 01:50:22,149 --> 01:50:18,290 it's interesting to hear that you're 2314 01:50:24,490 --> 01:50:22,159 thinking is is evolving or D evolving 2315 01:50:26,290 --> 01:50:24,500 depending on your point of view now one 2316 01:50:28,780 --> 01:50:26,300 point well I really wanted to ask was 2317 01:50:30,850 --> 01:50:28,790 how about patterns one of the things 2318 01:50:34,510 --> 01:50:30,860 that I've always been fascinated by is 2319 01:50:37,859 --> 01:50:34,520 is a you know patterning of these types 2320 01:50:41,169 --> 01:50:37,869 of events do you notice any sort of of 2321 01:50:43,030 --> 01:50:41,179 correlations in terms of time let's say 2322 01:50:45,010 --> 01:50:43,040 days of the week times of the year 2323 01:50:47,020 --> 01:50:45,020 you've been out there now twelve years 2324 01:50:49,300 --> 01:50:47,030 you've amassed an incredible amount of 2325 01:50:50,890 --> 01:50:49,310 data have you analyzed that data to 2326 01:50:53,830 --> 01:50:50,900 suggest that there's any sort of 2327 01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:53,840 frequency trends that are that are 2328 01:50:59,379 --> 01:50:56,810 occurring in other words what what I 2329 01:51:01,780 --> 01:50:59,389 like to try to do is identify particular 2330 01:51:03,329 --> 01:51:01,790 time periods so that I can be then out 2331 01:51:05,699 --> 01:51:03,339 in the field of 2332 01:51:07,679 --> 01:51:05,709 you know hopefully with the you know 2333 01:51:10,219 --> 01:51:07,689 with the agenda of capturing some of the 2334 01:51:15,270 --> 01:51:10,229 stuff more up close how about you 2335 01:51:19,259 --> 01:51:15,280 absolutely I did for example on the four 2336 01:51:21,629 --> 01:51:19,269 thousand plus trace landing cases I have 2337 01:51:24,089 --> 01:51:21,639 graphed those things out I've looked for 2338 01:51:27,109 --> 01:51:24,099 all kinds of patterns and in the trace 2339 01:51:32,429 --> 01:51:27,119 landings there are a lot of 2340 01:51:37,109 --> 01:51:32,439 statistically high patterns time month 2341 01:51:39,809 --> 01:51:37,119 year locations you know I that really 2342 01:51:43,379 --> 01:51:39,819 stand out and what's being done with 2343 01:51:49,169 --> 01:51:43,389 Marley right now is a very dear friend 2344 01:51:53,549 --> 01:51:49,179 of mine of forty years is currently as 2345 01:51:59,449 --> 01:51:53,559 we speak working up the statistical 2346 01:52:01,770 --> 01:51:59,459 stuff and he's demanded this I can't I 2347 01:52:03,799 --> 01:52:01,780 people at know me I think with pretty 2348 01:52:06,419 --> 01:52:03,809 low low I'm talking about but I can't 2349 01:52:11,089 --> 01:52:06,429 give his now you have him to him do the 2350 01:52:15,419 --> 01:52:11,099 same thing for my database yeah this guy 2351 01:52:20,329 --> 01:52:15,429 this is the man no kidding and he's been 2352 01:52:24,509 --> 01:52:20,339 there and is truly fascinated by it and 2353 01:52:26,969 --> 01:52:24,519 but I have done I've ran just about 2354 01:52:32,609 --> 01:52:26,979 every kind of chart a lot of the various 2355 01:52:35,189 --> 01:52:32,619 types of occurrences that I can and the 2356 01:52:38,239 --> 01:52:35,199 problem is they're back to the twelve 2357 01:52:42,679 --> 01:52:38,249 years there was such an enormous 2358 01:52:47,219 --> 01:52:42,689 statistical hole because for example 2359 01:52:50,309 --> 01:52:47,229 when I wasn't there you had a few people 2360 01:52:53,549 --> 01:52:50,319 who would watch but at about ten o'clock 2361 01:52:57,359 --> 01:52:53,559 in the evening they were off to bed so 2362 01:52:59,639 --> 01:52:57,369 between 10:00 and sunrise there is an 2363 01:53:01,739 --> 01:52:59,649 enormous observational hole now we're 2364 01:53:05,549 --> 01:53:01,749 filling that but I just don't have 2365 01:53:08,250 --> 01:53:05,559 enough data yet I do know that for 2366 01:53:11,359 --> 01:53:08,260 example some of the ranchers would get 2367 01:53:14,189 --> 01:53:11,369 up before sunrise to do chores and 2368 01:53:16,510 --> 01:53:14,199 almost always they would see something a 2369 01:53:21,630 --> 01:53:16,520 large amber one 2370 01:53:26,170 --> 01:53:21,640 the larger whites a light ball and if 2371 01:53:27,970 --> 01:53:26,180 the caretaker on some of the ranches 2372 01:53:30,100 --> 01:53:27,980 would who's there all the time but 2373 01:53:33,370 --> 01:53:30,110 they're generally afraid to go out after 2374 01:53:35,860 --> 01:53:33,380 dark now but if nature called at 2:00 or 2375 01:53:38,530 --> 01:53:35,870 3:00 in the morning almost invariably 2376 01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:38,540 they would see something so it's a 2377 01:53:44,440 --> 01:53:42,050 matter of having the eyeballs 24/7 now 2378 01:53:45,910 --> 01:53:44,450 we have had every part up in those eight 2379 01:53:48,310 --> 01:53:45,920 cameras set up is sure going to help 2380 01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:48,320 that yeah oh yeah absolutely 2381 01:53:54,430 --> 01:53:51,290 and we have had for the very first time 2382 01:53:58,450 --> 01:53:54,440 which is a big thrilling thing for me a 2383 01:54:02,740 --> 01:53:58,460 daylight observation of one of the small 2384 01:54:06,550 --> 01:54:02,750 light balls and by one of the owners and 2385 01:54:08,980 --> 01:54:06,560 his adult daughter not a great distance 2386 01:54:12,780 --> 01:54:08,990 away in the woods and it was one of the 2387 01:54:16,630 --> 01:54:12,790 gold-coloured baseball-sized jobs and 2388 01:54:18,490 --> 01:54:16,640 but anytime you can get a start of 2389 01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:18,500 something like a daylight light ball I 2390 01:54:24,820 --> 01:54:21,290 mean that's that's marvelous because you 2391 01:54:26,650 --> 01:54:24,830 need to then be more aware in the 2392 01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:26,660 daytime because the stuff obviously is 2393 01:54:35,710 --> 01:54:33,130 going on and but as far as what and why 2394 01:54:39,940 --> 01:54:35,720 I'm telling you we've had a lot of long 2395 01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:39,950 discussions about that the thing that 2396 01:54:46,540 --> 01:54:44,930 interests me is that if I can ever get 2397 01:54:48,730 --> 01:54:46,550 close enough to try to communicate with 2398 01:54:52,570 --> 01:54:48,740 a human alight 2399 01:54:56,110 --> 01:54:52,580 you can bet I'll do it and but what is 2400 01:54:59,260 --> 01:54:56,120 fascinating is back in the 70s I 2401 01:55:03,310 --> 01:54:59,270 investigated a physical trace case up in 2402 01:55:07,150 --> 01:55:03,320 Iowa and family the mother and her two 2403 01:55:08,980 --> 01:55:07,160 grown sons look out the upstairs window 2404 01:55:11,770 --> 01:55:08,990 and they see this pretty good-sized 2405 01:55:14,490 --> 01:55:11,780 object metallic object hovering about 2406 01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:14,500 ten feet from an upstairs window and 2407 01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:16,970 they watched it through their window and 2408 01:55:20,770 --> 01:55:19,010 they could see two figures just kind of 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source 2506 01:59:45,740 --> 01:59:45,210 for independence off radio for over a 2507 01:59:49,860 --> 01:59:45,750 decade 2508 02:00:02,169 --> 01:59:49,870 we are the GC and radio network 2509 02:00:07,700 --> 02:00:05,660 Ted Phillips joins us I'm gene Steinberg 2510 02:00:10,100 --> 02:00:07,710 you're in the para cast our co-host is 2511 02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:10,110 Chris O'Brien Ted before we broke for 2512 02:00:15,799 --> 02:00:12,210 our last segment you talked about the 2513 02:00:18,529 --> 02:00:15,809 second story UFO was two humanoids 2514 02:00:20,629 --> 02:00:18,539 inside did they look like rays whether 2515 02:00:23,240 --> 02:00:20,639 it look like well they said they looked 2516 02:00:25,790 --> 02:00:23,250 like any other person 2517 02:00:29,870 --> 02:00:25,800 I mean they look perfectly normal normal 2518 02:00:33,020 --> 02:00:29,880 proportions no giant heads her fins or 2519 02:00:35,029 --> 02:00:33,030 anything and they seem to be working on 2520 02:00:38,419 --> 02:00:35,039 a panel of something that they really 2521 02:00:41,140 --> 02:00:38,429 would slope down they can see and on a 2522 02:00:44,660 --> 02:00:41,150 couple of occasions they said the the 2523 02:00:47,950 --> 02:00:44,670 figures looked right at him but there 2524 02:00:50,750 --> 02:00:47,960 was no real reaction on their part and 2525 02:00:54,439 --> 02:00:50,760 so this went on for quite a long period 2526 02:00:57,319 --> 02:00:54,449 of time finally the object ascends 2527 02:01:00,080 --> 02:00:57,329 vertically and the course is a low sight 2528 02:01:03,919 --> 02:01:00,090 over the top of the window when they ran 2529 02:01:07,459 --> 02:01:03,929 outside below the point where the object 2530 02:01:11,089 --> 02:01:07,469 had been the grass was totally 2531 02:01:12,799 --> 02:01:11,099 dehydrated grass and soil all moisture 2532 02:01:17,410 --> 02:01:12,809 was sapped Olivette which is very 2533 02:01:22,040 --> 02:01:17,420 typical they sort of a microwave 2534 02:01:27,399 --> 02:01:22,050 eeehm effect to dehydrate and destroy 2535 02:01:30,680 --> 02:01:27,409 all plant life that it's exposed to and 2536 02:01:33,200 --> 02:01:30,690 there was a small tree below where this 2537 02:01:37,310 --> 02:01:33,210 thing had been it had died it would die 2538 02:01:40,700 --> 02:01:37,320 within a week and but the the real clue 2539 02:01:43,279 --> 02:01:40,710 in this thing and back in the 70s I let 2540 02:01:48,200 --> 02:01:43,289 a lot of this go by me because I was 2541 02:01:50,569 --> 02:01:48,210 looking for physical stuff they went 2542 02:01:53,450 --> 02:01:50,579 downstairs and as we were walking by the 2543 02:01:57,200 --> 02:01:53,460 kitchen plates started flying off the 2544 02:02:00,729 --> 02:01:57,210 table things started flying off the 2545 02:02:03,570 --> 02:02:00,739 shelves so that's what we typically call 2546 02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:03,580 poltergeist activity 2547 02:02:07,860 --> 02:02:05,650 and that had never happened in this 2548 02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:07,870 house before the mother had lived there 2549 02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:10,930 for many years and it continued for 2550 02:02:17,190 --> 02:02:13,570 weeks after the thing had been there 2551 02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:17,200 well I should have seen it for what it 2552 02:02:21,120 --> 02:02:19,450 was but again I was looking for 2553 02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:21,130 something I could pick up and didn't 2554 02:02:25,890 --> 02:02:23,050 want to get into the realm of ghosts and 2555 02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:25,900 and like that but I've got to tell you 2556 02:02:29,760 --> 02:02:27,370 down through the years I've encountered 2557 02:02:32,010 --> 02:02:29,770 that sort of stuff I've been very 2558 02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:32,020 cautious not to talk a lot about it 2559 02:02:39,660 --> 02:02:35,650 because you know I worry about 2560 02:02:41,730 --> 02:02:39,670 credibility and it's it's becoming more 2561 02:02:45,120 --> 02:02:41,740 difficult to hold that credibility up 2562 02:02:47,460 --> 02:02:45,130 but you got to go where this stuff takes 2563 02:02:49,380 --> 02:02:47,470 you you know and you'll be a fool not to 2564 02:02:51,390 --> 02:02:49,390 do it you know that's one thing we want 2565 02:02:53,880 --> 02:02:51,400 to mention here too a lot of people even 2566 02:02:55,200 --> 02:02:53,890 those involved in UFO research they want 2567 02:02:58,530 --> 02:02:55,210 it physical they want a physical 2568 02:02:59,940 --> 02:02:58,540 spaceship a physical entity a physical 2569 02:03:02,130 --> 02:02:59,950 trace on the ground and as soon as it 2570 02:03:04,380 --> 02:03:02,140 gets a little ephemeral a little bit 2571 02:03:06,900 --> 02:03:04,390 less than physical they just can't take 2572 02:03:08,370 --> 02:03:06,910 it anymore but as you say you have to 2573 02:03:10,200 --> 02:03:08,380 follow where the evidence takes you and 2574 02:03:12,030 --> 02:03:10,210 how do you emotionally cope with the 2575 02:03:13,650 --> 02:03:12,040 fact that maybe some of your assumptions 2576 02:03:18,770 --> 02:03:13,660 about what you were expecting to see 2577 02:03:22,050 --> 02:03:18,780 aren't quite what the reality is oh boy 2578 02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:22,060 yeah you hit it on the head there in all 2579 02:03:27,870 --> 02:03:25,290 the cases you know the again another 2580 02:03:31,770 --> 02:03:27,880 statistical pattern and the trace 2581 02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:31,780 landing cases was the objects described 2582 02:03:38,720 --> 02:03:34,210 generally as you know as a metallic in 2583 02:03:41,340 --> 02:03:38,730 18 feet 30 feet and landing on 2584 02:03:44,370 --> 02:03:41,350 structured legs and leaving behind foot 2585 02:03:47,870 --> 02:03:44,380 pad marks and all that and of course 2586 02:03:52,520 --> 02:03:47,880 that's what I was expecting to see and 2587 02:03:57,210 --> 02:03:52,530 the first actual sighting that I had was 2588 02:04:00,840 --> 02:03:57,220 five months after going to Marly five 2589 02:04:03,140 --> 02:04:00,850 months of seeing nothing and one of the 2590 02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:03,150 owners and I are standing there and it's 2591 02:04:10,620 --> 02:04:07,450 Sun has just set the sky is still nice 2592 02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:10,630 and bright and in North East he says 2593 02:04:14,729 --> 02:04:12,970 there they are and I look up and there 2594 02:04:18,410 --> 02:04:14,739 are three 2595 02:04:21,870 --> 02:04:18,420 amber of what we call Amber's in a row 2596 02:04:26,040 --> 02:04:21,880 nice neat horizontal row they're not 2597 02:04:29,640 --> 02:04:26,050 moving no wings no engines no balloons 2598 02:04:33,029 --> 02:04:29,650 hold them up no parachutes they're just 2599 02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:33,039 hanging there and silence and that's the 2600 02:04:39,060 --> 02:04:35,050 thing that impact should I think the 2601 02:04:42,750 --> 02:04:39,070 most how the hell are they staying in 2602 02:04:46,049 --> 02:04:42,760 the air and yet you know you can see 2603 02:04:49,379 --> 02:04:46,059 them perfectly clearly and then a fourth 2604 02:04:52,890 --> 02:04:49,389 one comes on more to the east and then 2605 02:04:57,120 --> 02:04:52,900 the fifth one came on to the south of 2606 02:05:00,180 --> 02:04:57,130 that one and it was closer it was much 2607 02:05:04,049 --> 02:05:00,190 closer it was perhaps 800 feet above the 2608 02:05:07,890 --> 02:05:04,059 ground and 600 feet or so away out over 2609 02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:07,900 the field again no means no visible 2610 02:05:15,120 --> 02:05:10,570 means of support and no sound no motors 2611 02:05:17,220 --> 02:05:15,130 running and I'm just truly astonished it 2612 02:05:20,850 --> 02:05:17,230 was something I was not at all ever 2613 02:05:24,239 --> 02:05:20,860 expecting to see even though I'd heard 2614 02:05:27,149 --> 02:05:24,249 the reports from these witnesses but and 2615 02:05:32,450 --> 02:05:27,159 I have to tell you it was it was amber 2616 02:05:34,830 --> 02:05:32,460 and it was elongated to the vertical and 2617 02:05:36,600 --> 02:05:34,840 looked to be if I was guessing I would 2618 02:05:40,319 --> 02:05:36,610 say that distance it was probably 12 2619 02:05:42,899 --> 02:05:40,329 feet high maybe 8 feet wide and it had 2620 02:05:47,279 --> 02:05:42,909 it was full of the amber light which is 2621 02:05:52,470 --> 02:05:47,289 very soft and yet very bright and it had 2622 02:05:54,479 --> 02:05:52,480 a dark purple blue band around the edges 2623 02:05:56,879 --> 02:05:54,489 starting at the top coming around the 2624 02:06:00,540 --> 02:05:56,889 bottom back up to the top but it was not 2625 02:06:03,870 --> 02:06:00,550 across the top a u-shaped band around it 2626 02:06:06,060 --> 02:06:03,880 and as I'm standing there watching it 2627 02:06:09,270 --> 02:06:06,070 and I'm still way super into the 2628 02:06:11,549 --> 02:06:09,280 physical stuff but my brain is telling 2629 02:06:14,310 --> 02:06:11,559 me that something could come through 2630 02:06:17,609 --> 02:06:14,320 that and eyes to this day don't know why 2631 02:06:22,160 --> 02:06:17,619 I was thinking that but nothing ever did 2632 02:06:25,310 --> 02:06:22,170 and the way the things disappear is 2633 02:06:27,359 --> 02:06:25,320 incredible because now these are 2634 02:06:31,890 --> 02:06:27,369 substantially large 2635 02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:31,900 things that you're looking at and when 2636 02:06:37,979 --> 02:06:35,650 they disappeared it's like a camera an 2637 02:06:40,680 --> 02:06:37,989 old camera lens with the shutter closing 2638 02:06:42,689 --> 02:06:40,690 and in other words they seem to get 2639 02:06:48,149 --> 02:06:42,699 smaller and smaller and smaller and then 2640 02:06:49,770 --> 02:06:48,159 they're gone and I was very lucky well I 2641 02:06:52,229 --> 02:06:49,780 was standing there with a video camera 2642 02:06:54,870 --> 02:06:52,239 running pointed at the ground for a 2643 02:06:58,200 --> 02:06:54,880 minute and 37 seconds and that's how 2644 02:07:01,379 --> 02:06:58,210 stunned I was by what I was seeing I got 2645 02:07:03,089 --> 02:07:01,389 a real good yeah yeah really good make 2646 02:07:08,339 --> 02:07:03,099 sure I ground a lot of the thing that 2647 02:07:10,709 --> 02:07:08,349 was flying good well if it had been a 2648 02:07:12,510 --> 02:07:10,719 metallic disc with little guys crawl all 2649 02:07:14,820 --> 02:07:12,520 over I've been fine I've been taping 2650 02:07:16,080 --> 02:07:14,830 that because it was something I would be 2651 02:07:20,250 --> 02:07:16,090 expecting but 2652 02:07:23,700 --> 02:07:20,260 and fortunately three guys drive up in a 2653 02:07:26,370 --> 02:07:23,710 pickup truck and roll the window down 2654 02:07:28,229 --> 02:07:26,380 they said did you see those things so 2655 02:07:33,000 --> 02:07:28,239 that made me feel a lot better too there 2656 02:07:35,100 --> 02:07:33,010 were five witnesses so but I I was very 2657 02:07:40,560 --> 02:07:35,110 fortunate one morning I had the cameras 2658 02:07:42,839 --> 02:07:40,570 rolling and just before sunrise and I 2659 02:07:45,990 --> 02:07:42,849 was talking to one of the guys on the 2660 02:07:48,629 --> 02:07:46,000 team and looking east and for some 2661 02:07:51,419 --> 02:07:48,639 reason I just shifted my body a little 2662 02:07:55,320 --> 02:07:51,429 bit to the left and right behind his 2663 02:07:58,169 --> 02:07:55,330 head one of the big white objects and I 2664 02:08:01,229 --> 02:07:58,179 said look at this and by the time he 2665 02:08:05,189 --> 02:08:01,239 spun around it was gone so I run up to 2666 02:08:08,070 --> 02:08:05,199 the the DVR and I start doing some 2667 02:08:10,200 --> 02:08:08,080 playback and I got this thing and I'm 2668 02:08:12,990 --> 02:08:10,210 telling you I have looked at that video 2669 02:08:16,260 --> 02:08:13,000 I couldn't guess how many times because 2670 02:08:18,419 --> 02:08:16,270 it shows how they appear and how they 2671 02:08:20,939 --> 02:08:18,429 disappear I'll tell you again to that 2672 02:08:23,070 --> 02:08:20,949 video and I'm going to ask about whether 2673 02:08:27,080 --> 02:08:23,080 we could see them they'll be very nice 2674 02:08:29,399 --> 02:08:27,090 we have Ted Phillips UFO landing trace 2675 02:08:32,160 --> 02:08:29,409 investigator our co-host is Chris 2676 02:08:34,630 --> 02:08:32,170 O'Brien I'm gene Steinberger in the 2677 02:08:40,439 --> 02:08:34,640 power cast 2678 02:08:46,660 --> 02:08:44,530 is there a secret UFO agenda to strange 2679 02:08:49,149 --> 02:08:46,670 creatures from the darkest corners of 2680 02:08:51,990 --> 02:08:49,159 the mind roam the earth is there 2681 02:08:55,660 --> 02:08:52,000 evidence for mind control time travel or 2682 02:08:57,280 --> 02:08:55,670 devious government conspiracies find out 2683 02:08:59,890 --> 02:08:57,290 the inside scoop on the latest 2684 02:09:02,589 --> 02:08:59,900 conspiracies paranormal 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02:12:32,570 code GCM for an 8 percent discount 2768 02:12:36,220 --> 02:12:35,120 go to air and aqua da that's air and 2769 02:12:40,660 --> 02:12:36,230 aqua com 2770 02:12:42,790 --> 02:12:40,670 purify your life today tired of 2771 02:12:45,190 --> 02:12:42,800 searching for great talk radio and I 2772 02:12:55,540 --> 02:12:45,200 think it really does make a difference 2773 02:12:57,350 --> 02:12:55,550 we are the GC and radio network entered 2774 02:13:12,169 --> 02:12:57,360 another dimension 2775 02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:15,299 we return with Ted Phillips C raised 2776 02:13:21,509 --> 02:13:18,010 some very fascinating questions maybe a 2777 02:13:23,370 --> 02:13:21,519 few hackles it was last segment I'm Jean 2778 02:13:25,739 --> 02:13:23,380 Steinberg you're in the power cast our 2779 02:13:27,419 --> 02:13:25,749 co-host who's been there himself on the 2780 02:13:29,489 --> 02:13:27,429 scene investigating lots of strange 2781 02:13:31,259 --> 02:13:29,499 stuff is Chris O'Brien and before we 2782 02:13:31,830 --> 02:13:31,269 turn back to Chris I wanted to ask you 2783 02:13:36,000 --> 02:13:31,840 okay 2784 02:13:39,449 --> 02:13:36,010 it's on the DVR when retell can we see 2785 02:13:43,859 --> 02:13:39,459 this and other pictures well as soon as 2786 02:13:46,620 --> 02:13:43,869 I get the aforementioned website going I 2787 02:13:49,020 --> 02:13:46,630 my nephew which generally it's not a 2788 02:13:52,259 --> 02:13:49,030 good approach heavier nephew build a 2789 02:13:54,569 --> 02:13:52,269 website but this guy does it for a 2790 02:13:57,929 --> 02:13:54,579 living and he's going to give me a 2791 02:13:59,669 --> 02:13:57,939 pretty high-tech setup which I won't 2792 02:14:02,819 --> 02:13:59,679 know anything about but I can ask 2793 02:14:06,389 --> 02:14:02,829 questions and there will be video clips 2794 02:14:08,159 --> 02:14:06,399 including this one of some of the stuff 2795 02:14:11,909 --> 02:14:08,169 going on along with some really cool 2796 02:14:15,029 --> 02:14:11,919 still photos and I think it will be of 2797 02:14:18,149 --> 02:14:15,039 interest I'm going to post a lot of the 2798 02:14:21,870 --> 02:14:18,159 trace cases and a lot of the Marley 2799 02:14:23,489 --> 02:14:21,880 stuff on there so as I say that should 2800 02:14:27,750 --> 02:14:23,499 be up and running in a couple of weeks 2801 02:14:30,239 --> 02:14:27,760 and I'll shoot you an email let you know 2802 02:14:32,909 --> 02:14:30,249 how to find it is this going to be the 2803 02:14:34,500 --> 02:14:32,919 same site that you've had up till now or 2804 02:14:36,839 --> 02:14:34,510 is it going to be toenail different URL 2805 02:14:38,549 --> 02:14:36,849 no it'll be totally different yeah okay 2806 02:14:40,020 --> 02:14:38,559 well that office's we get the 2807 02:14:42,839 --> 02:14:40,030 information this show will be heard on 2808 02:14:44,759 --> 02:14:42,849 August 1st Chris yeah Ted you know one 2809 02:14:47,790 --> 02:14:44,769 thing that we have kind of failed to 2810 02:14:50,639 --> 02:14:47,800 mention I did sort of refer to the 2811 02:14:53,580 --> 02:14:50,649 absolute massive volume of cases that 2812 02:14:55,919 --> 02:14:53,590 you have documented over the years what 2813 02:15:01,489 --> 02:14:55,929 what what's your running total up to now 2814 02:15:06,270 --> 02:15:01,499 about the current total is 887 2815 02:15:11,270 --> 02:15:06,280 887 Event Reporting how about the trace 2816 02:15:17,489 --> 02:15:11,280 the trace case database the trace case 2817 02:15:20,279 --> 02:15:17,499 cases right now are at 4400 and 91 and 2818 02:15:22,000 --> 02:15:20,289 that is been you know in approximate 2819 02:15:26,830 --> 02:15:22,010 time period now or 2820 02:15:34,180 --> 02:15:26,840 that we're talking about the trace cases 2821 02:15:36,490 --> 02:15:34,190 go back the first case is 1610 Wow wow 2822 02:15:38,770 --> 02:15:36,500 that's that's that's quite amazing you 2823 02:15:42,010 --> 02:15:38,780 know really hats off to you for for 2824 02:15:44,770 --> 02:15:42,020 being so diligent to compile what could 2825 02:15:49,570 --> 02:15:44,780 be a very very well he is a very 2826 02:15:52,570 --> 02:15:49,580 important database what is your next 2827 02:15:55,000 --> 02:15:52,580 plan I mean if you had if you had 2828 02:15:57,610 --> 02:15:55,010 unlimited resources for instance would 2829 02:16:00,010 --> 02:15:57,620 you have people there full time are you 2830 02:16:02,200 --> 02:16:00,020 looking at having some sort of full time 2831 02:16:04,780 --> 02:16:02,210 presence there in the in this current 2832 02:16:06,610 --> 02:16:04,790 case or what are your plans now for this 2833 02:16:08,860 --> 02:16:06,620 particular project I know it's going to 2834 02:16:11,650 --> 02:16:08,870 head full speed now so once you give us 2835 02:16:17,320 --> 02:16:11,660 a kind of an idea of what you think it 2836 02:16:20,710 --> 02:16:17,330 is now well what I my plans currently if 2837 02:16:22,420 --> 02:16:20,720 as you said I had unlimited funding the 2838 02:16:27,880 --> 02:16:22,430 first thing I would do is I would move 2839 02:16:33,820 --> 02:16:27,890 there and I've got really rustic 2840 02:16:38,080 --> 02:16:33,830 beautiful places to live in at no cost 2841 02:16:40,990 --> 02:16:38,090 and I very definitely would would like 2842 02:16:44,470 --> 02:16:41,000 to be there 24/7 you know with an 2843 02:16:48,460 --> 02:16:44,480 occasional few days off but and I would 2844 02:16:51,820 --> 02:16:48,470 have a team of probably three to two 2845 02:16:54,580 --> 02:16:51,830 three there all the time so we could 2846 02:16:57,460 --> 02:16:54,590 respond to the most current events 2847 02:17:00,820 --> 02:16:57,470 immediately and if things got heavy as 2848 02:17:03,070 --> 02:17:00,830 you all know things do get into a peak 2849 02:17:07,740 --> 02:17:03,080 situation where you have really a lot 2850 02:17:13,690 --> 02:17:07,750 going on then bring in the whole team of 2851 02:17:19,180 --> 02:17:13,700 seven and so and of course to keep 2852 02:17:25,170 --> 02:17:19,190 improving our ability to to preserve the 2853 02:17:30,480 --> 02:17:25,180 events on I def and still images and 2854 02:17:34,960 --> 02:17:30,490 more types of detector devices AM 2855 02:17:35,889 --> 02:17:34,970 spectrum just anything at all that would 2856 02:17:39,129 --> 02:17:35,899 tell us 2857 02:17:46,269 --> 02:17:39,139 what is going on with these things and 2858 02:17:51,099 --> 02:17:46,279 as I know is going on somewhere else an 2859 02:17:55,909 --> 02:17:51,109 attempt to why hate say this to 2860 02:17:56,330 --> 02:17:55,919 communicate with whatever the forces at 2861 02:18:00,379 --> 02:17:56,340 hand 2862 02:18:05,139 --> 02:18:00,389 are and so I'm exploring some 2863 02:18:11,330 --> 02:18:05,149 possibilities of various types of lights 2864 02:18:13,549 --> 02:18:11,340 sounds one thing that does go on and I 2865 02:18:17,119 --> 02:18:13,559 was never believe me a believer in the 2866 02:18:20,809 --> 02:18:17,129 paranormal but again when I hit you in 2867 02:18:26,299 --> 02:18:20,819 the face you know you got to back up and 2868 02:18:30,290 --> 02:18:26,309 I know the feeling yeah so what I found 2869 02:18:38,059 --> 02:18:30,300 is that you can for example put out a 2870 02:18:43,689 --> 02:18:38,069 deck of alphabet cards and you'll come 2871 02:18:47,839 --> 02:18:43,699 back to a very isolated building and 2872 02:18:49,969 --> 02:18:47,849 there will be something there a word and 2873 02:18:53,899 --> 02:18:49,979 it doesn't matter the word doesn't 2874 02:18:55,759 --> 02:18:53,909 really mean anything to you but it's the 2875 02:19:01,279 --> 02:18:55,769 fact that something has moved the cards 2876 02:19:05,089 --> 02:19:01,289 and the I was told by some researchers 2877 02:19:07,849 --> 02:19:05,099 that be careful it can follow you home 2878 02:19:13,879 --> 02:19:07,859 and I had it kind of a laugh privately 2879 02:19:15,439 --> 02:19:13,889 about that and about two weeks ago I get 2880 02:19:20,689 --> 02:19:15,449 out of the car and I'm carrying my car 2881 02:19:23,419 --> 02:19:20,699 keys with me into the house and I laid 2882 02:19:25,399 --> 02:19:23,429 them down in the living room and the 2883 02:19:29,149 --> 02:19:25,409 next I was going to drive I went to get 2884 02:19:31,129 --> 02:19:29,159 keys and they were gone so I jumped the 2885 02:19:33,649 --> 02:19:31,139 wife you know what you do my car keys 2886 02:19:34,909 --> 02:19:33,659 nothing so we tear the house apart and 2887 02:19:37,969 --> 02:19:34,919 no keys 2888 02:19:41,089 --> 02:19:37,979 so we finally give up we go out and we 2889 02:19:44,479 --> 02:19:41,099 have some keys made and the very next 2890 02:19:47,239 --> 02:19:44,489 morning I have this one drawer did I 2891 02:19:50,899 --> 02:19:47,249 keep my sheepdogs lead in 2892 02:19:52,429 --> 02:19:50,909 and I had taken her on that lead every 2893 02:19:57,019 --> 02:19:52,439 day before she goes with me everywhere 2894 02:19:58,939 --> 02:19:57,029 and I opened the drawer my car keys are 2895 02:20:04,399 --> 02:19:58,949 laid out in a very neat pattern on top 2896 02:20:07,040 --> 02:20:04,409 of the dogs chain and that sort of thing 2897 02:20:09,139 --> 02:20:07,050 is starting to happen I can't believe 2898 02:20:13,399 --> 02:20:09,149 I'm even talking about these things but 2899 02:20:14,989 --> 02:20:13,409 you know I mean I investigated a what 2900 02:20:18,170 --> 02:20:14,999 was supposed to be a haunted house in 2901 02:20:20,359 --> 02:20:18,180 Eureka Springs and I did a thorough 2902 02:20:22,699 --> 02:20:20,369 investigation because a couple involved 2903 02:20:25,729 --> 02:20:22,709 were highly credible and they were 2904 02:20:28,790 --> 02:20:25,739 having amazing things going on and I got 2905 02:20:31,330 --> 02:20:28,800 to see one of them chandelier that 2906 02:20:35,269 --> 02:20:31,340 weighed about a thousand pounds started 2907 02:20:37,069 --> 02:20:35,279 swinging and all the windows closed 2908 02:20:40,429 --> 02:20:37,079 doors closed no reason that it would 2909 02:20:42,349 --> 02:20:40,439 start swinging video taped that and they 2910 02:20:46,099 --> 02:20:42,359 would add things disappear very valuable 2911 02:20:48,319 --> 02:20:46,109 jewelry in a locked case and she would 2912 02:20:52,399 --> 02:20:48,329 go to the lock case and lock it open it 2913 02:20:54,139 --> 02:20:52,409 and the jewelry's gone and weeks later 2914 02:20:57,679 --> 02:20:54,149 she would find it in the bottom of the 2915 02:20:58,880 --> 02:20:57,689 laws that had plants in it or something 2916 02:21:02,660 --> 02:20:58,890 like that all the time 2917 02:21:06,769 --> 02:21:02,670 so here there is I really believe there 2918 02:21:09,410 --> 02:21:06,779 is somehow a connection between the UFO 2919 02:21:12,949 --> 02:21:09,420 business and what we call the paranormal 2920 02:21:14,719 --> 02:21:12,959 I honestly do and I wish to God I had 2921 02:21:17,929 --> 02:21:14,729 paid attention to that sort of stuff 2922 02:21:20,569 --> 02:21:17,939 along with the physical trace staff so I 2923 02:21:23,479 --> 02:21:20,579 let a lot of I know now really good 2924 02:21:25,639 --> 02:21:23,489 stuff go by me but we were back in the 2925 02:21:28,489 --> 02:21:25,649 in the day we were so busy with the 2926 02:21:30,319 --> 02:21:28,499 landings you really didn't have time to 2927 02:21:32,000 --> 02:21:30,329 look at other cases you just didn't at 2928 02:21:33,739 --> 02:21:32,010 it it also kind of gives you a little 2929 02:21:36,019 --> 02:21:33,749 bit of tunnel vision don't you feel that 2930 02:21:37,880 --> 02:21:36,029 way after all this reading books by 2931 02:21:40,189 --> 02:21:37,890 people like John keel and others who 2932 02:21:42,859 --> 02:21:40,199 said there's another aspect to this 2933 02:21:45,559 --> 02:21:42,869 subject and kind of didn't pay attention 2934 02:21:48,529 --> 02:21:45,569 to it then did you know I didn't and you 2935 02:21:52,819 --> 02:21:48,539 know what I'm currently doing is going 2936 02:21:55,429 --> 02:21:52,829 back and reading those books and my wife 2937 02:21:58,370 --> 02:21:55,439 who has turned into a really great 2938 02:22:00,820 --> 02:21:58,380 believer she she and I both saw on the 2939 02:22:04,000 --> 02:22:00,830 19th of June this year 2940 02:22:06,460 --> 02:22:04,010 a lighted object three feet off the 2941 02:22:08,140 --> 02:22:06,470 ground about 30 feet away I'll tell you 2942 02:22:09,820 --> 02:22:08,150 when I go into that signing in a couple 2943 02:22:11,950 --> 02:22:09,830 of minutes here but let me tell 2944 02:22:14,140 --> 02:22:11,960 everybody that if you want to find more 2945 02:22:16,930 --> 02:22:14,150 of the things that we do on the power 2946 02:22:19,511 --> 02:22:16,940 cast go to the power cast come that's 2947 02:22:22,540 --> 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3044 02:27:03,559 --> 02:27:01,710 going to happen next the co-host is 3045 02:27:05,929 --> 02:27:03,569 Chris O'Brien our special guest this 3046 02:27:09,050 --> 02:27:05,939 week is Ted Phillips he started out as a 3047 02:27:11,269 --> 02:27:09,060 UFO trace evidence researcher and now is 3048 02:27:13,729 --> 02:27:11,279 exploring the larger realms of the power 3049 02:27:15,830 --> 02:27:13,739 normal because it became too involved 3050 02:27:18,769 --> 02:27:15,840 for him our co-host Chris O'Brien I'm 3051 02:27:21,410 --> 02:27:18,779 gene steinberger and the power cast so 3052 02:27:22,969 --> 02:27:21,420 you and your wife had a sighting that 3053 02:27:25,069 --> 02:27:22,979 you started to tell us about before 3054 02:27:27,950 --> 02:27:25,079 Chris picks up on this tell us more 3055 02:27:31,540 --> 02:27:27,960 about this case yeah she spotted the 3056 02:27:34,609 --> 02:27:31,550 thing and we were on the Kevin porch and 3057 02:27:38,300 --> 02:27:34,619 at that point is about 60 feet away and 3058 02:27:41,029 --> 02:27:38,310 so I grabbed the camera and walked out 3059 02:27:43,189 --> 02:27:41,039 we went out and had a very good view of 3060 02:27:46,040 --> 02:27:43,199 it it was hovering and then it would 3061 02:27:48,410 --> 02:27:46,050 silently shoot up at incredible speeds 3062 02:27:52,189 --> 02:27:48,420 come back down at incredible speeds and 3063 02:27:54,620 --> 02:27:52,199 stop means physically impossible so we 3064 02:27:58,809 --> 02:27:54,630 got to look beyond physically possible 3065 02:28:02,359 --> 02:27:58,819 stuff but I shot a number of photos and 3066 02:28:05,660 --> 02:28:02,369 one time I caught it when it was not 3067 02:28:07,519 --> 02:28:05,670 moving and the rest of the photos are 3068 02:28:09,540 --> 02:28:07,529 simply the streak is the thing you can 3069 02:28:13,320 --> 02:28:09,550 see the colors very well 3070 02:28:15,660 --> 02:28:13,330 as it when vertical or came down and so 3071 02:28:18,840 --> 02:28:15,670 that got her really excited and she's 3072 02:28:22,190 --> 02:28:18,850 been reading some of the very best books 3073 02:28:25,590 --> 02:28:22,200 I think by the best person possible 3074 02:28:29,580 --> 02:28:25,600 shock filet and I talked about a 3075 02:28:32,210 --> 02:28:29,590 prolific writer and so she's now going 3076 02:28:35,099 --> 02:28:32,220 back through all of jocks books and 3077 02:28:38,360 --> 02:28:35,109 looking for similar things that he had 3078 02:28:42,990 --> 02:28:38,370 reported back years ago in his 3079 02:28:46,349 --> 02:28:43,000 investigations and so there is a lot 3080 02:28:50,460 --> 02:28:46,359 there to find passport to meconium 3081 02:28:52,410 --> 02:28:50,470 messengers of deception anatomy of a 3082 02:28:54,480 --> 02:28:52,420 phenomenon you I mean you can go on and 3083 02:28:57,030 --> 02:28:54,490 on the best stuff that's ever really 3084 02:29:04,020 --> 02:28:57,040 been written and thoroughly documented 3085 02:29:07,469 --> 02:29:04,030 by him and so it's I don't know I think 3086 02:29:10,349 --> 02:29:07,479 back through the years of the cases 3087 02:29:13,740 --> 02:29:10,359 where this kind of stuff was was 3088 02:29:18,150 --> 02:29:13,750 involved and as I say it just kind of 3089 02:29:20,780 --> 02:29:18,160 went on by and the things that happen 3090 02:29:23,219 --> 02:29:20,790 you can make sense of them in your mind 3091 02:29:26,790 --> 02:29:23,229 although it doesn't mean you're right 3092 02:29:31,800 --> 02:29:26,800 about what your assumptions are we've 3093 02:29:37,290 --> 02:29:31,810 had darting this year to cases in which 3094 02:29:41,210 --> 02:29:37,300 an individual is walking across the 3095 02:29:45,690 --> 02:29:41,220 field and suddenly is surrounded by tiny 3096 02:29:50,070 --> 02:29:45,700 gold colored lights about the size of 3097 02:29:54,719 --> 02:29:50,080 the end of your small finger and like a 3098 02:29:58,620 --> 02:29:54,729 net above all the way around and about a 3099 02:30:02,490 --> 02:29:58,630 foot from his body and this is in 3100 02:30:07,050 --> 02:30:02,500 daylight and they're snapping constantly 3101 02:30:08,370 --> 02:30:07,060 said like a tiny firecracker and this 3102 02:30:11,070 --> 02:30:08,380 has happened on two different occasions 3103 02:30:15,450 --> 02:30:11,080 two different locations 3104 02:30:21,261 --> 02:30:15,460 several hundred feet apart and when I 3105 02:30:25,381 --> 02:30:21,271 asked him how long did you see them 3106 02:30:29,581 --> 02:30:25,391 he got this look on his face and he said 3107 02:30:31,560 --> 02:30:29,591 he was town founded he said you know I 3108 02:30:35,400 --> 02:30:31,570 don't know it was like he never thought 3109 02:30:38,131 --> 02:30:35,410 of that and had no realization of the 3110 02:30:41,430 --> 02:30:38,141 time span I said wow did they did they 3111 02:30:47,390 --> 02:30:41,440 move away disappeared and he said I 3112 02:30:50,400 --> 02:30:47,400 don't know so in both both events now 3113 02:30:54,211 --> 02:30:50,410 and that that goes along it correlates 3114 02:30:56,551 --> 02:30:54,221 with physical trace landing cases in 3115 02:31:00,421 --> 02:30:56,561 other cases down through the years where 3116 02:31:03,421 --> 02:31:00,431 people have sort of no realization of a 3117 02:31:06,001 --> 02:31:03,431 time period and I've seen it on some 3118 02:31:10,770 --> 02:31:06,011 really good trace cases so there are a 3119 02:31:13,440 --> 02:31:10,780 lot of things in action and I mean it's 3120 02:31:18,480 --> 02:31:13,450 going on I had two enormous cases just 3121 02:31:22,020 --> 02:31:18,490 last week and it's it's just incredible 3122 02:31:24,600 --> 02:31:22,030 I one of the things now Chris was asking 3123 02:31:26,850 --> 02:31:24,610 you know what what do I plan to do in 3124 02:31:28,980 --> 02:31:26,860 the future with all this well I'm 3125 02:31:33,150 --> 02:31:28,990 keeping all these records very carefully 3126 02:31:37,381 --> 02:31:33,160 and I plan to somehow or other publish 3127 02:31:40,110 --> 02:31:37,391 them at the right point in the future so 3128 02:31:44,520 --> 02:31:40,120 I'm not the only one that knows this 3129 02:31:46,940 --> 02:31:44,530 stuff basically and it would fill a very 3130 02:31:50,161 --> 02:31:46,950 large volume I can tell you that and 3131 02:31:53,761 --> 02:31:50,171 also I've got to tell you that finally I 3132 02:31:56,551 --> 02:31:53,771 am writing a book all right and that 3133 02:32:00,031 --> 02:31:56,561 will deal primarily with the physical 3134 02:32:02,751 --> 02:32:00,041 trace investigations that have done my 3135 02:32:04,951 --> 02:32:02,761 relationship with J Allen Hynek and and 3136 02:32:07,890 --> 02:32:04,961 Jacques and some of the really great 3137 02:32:10,711 --> 02:32:07,900 people who well they're still around 3138 02:32:14,161 --> 02:32:10,721 some are still going but from the years 3139 02:32:17,491 --> 02:32:14,171 back and so I don't know how long that's 3140 02:32:19,860 --> 02:32:17,501 going to take me because I'm uh I just 3141 02:32:23,520 --> 02:32:19,870 have to catch day one I mean that sort 3142 02:32:26,251 --> 02:32:23,530 of mode you know and work on it but that 3143 02:32:29,220 --> 02:32:26,261 or that's a couple of things but I want 3144 02:32:31,201 --> 02:32:29,230 to get the information out to the 3145 02:32:33,960 --> 02:32:31,211 general public because they would be 3146 02:32:37,610 --> 02:32:33,970 astonished to think that this is 3147 02:32:40,559 --> 02:32:37,620 going on in a relatively small area and 3148 02:32:44,790 --> 02:32:40,569 constantly and the first report that I'm 3149 02:32:49,349 --> 02:32:44,800 aware of in the Marly woods was in 1937 3150 02:32:51,330 --> 02:32:49,359 and that was by a couple people that you 3151 02:32:55,559 --> 02:32:51,340 could not find more reliable witnesses 3152 02:32:58,769 --> 02:32:55,569 and and I've managed to get all the 3153 02:33:02,639 --> 02:32:58,779 reports up through the late 30s the 40s 3154 02:33:05,460 --> 02:33:02,649 and 50s on up and so it's it's been 3155 02:33:08,760 --> 02:33:05,470 going on a long time ok we don't have 3156 02:33:11,670 --> 02:33:08,770 much time left here and maybe you could 3157 02:33:12,660 --> 02:33:11,680 tell our listeners were you going from 3158 02:33:16,110 --> 02:33:12,670 here you're going to be writing a book 3159 02:33:19,530 --> 02:33:16,120 about your past hopefully about some of 3160 02:33:22,320 --> 02:33:19,540 this stuff have you had the media try to 3161 02:33:24,840 --> 02:33:22,330 kind of horn in on the Marley wood stuff 3162 02:33:26,610 --> 02:33:24,850 have people tried to to get in there and 3163 02:33:28,950 --> 02:33:26,620 say hey where is it what we're going to 3164 02:33:33,030 --> 02:33:28,960 try to find it do people even find it by 3165 02:33:36,120 --> 02:33:33,040 accident well that's the reason that I 3166 02:33:40,910 --> 02:33:36,130 shut down our website and stopped doing 3167 02:33:47,760 --> 02:33:40,920 radio shows and TV things and so on 3168 02:33:51,269 --> 02:33:47,770 along with fact that May the 7th of 2009 3169 02:33:53,969 --> 02:33:51,279 I had a stroke and that kind of 3170 02:33:55,889 --> 02:33:53,979 nullified thanks for a while but 3171 02:33:59,450 --> 02:33:55,899 fortunately everything and I mean 3172 02:34:05,690 --> 02:33:59,460 everything is still working now so but 3173 02:34:09,660 --> 02:34:05,700 sort of and I had done a couple of the 3174 02:34:14,580 --> 02:34:09,670 UFO hunter shows and the last one I did 3175 02:34:16,830 --> 02:34:14,590 i sat all day at a park bench listening 3176 02:34:20,610 --> 02:34:16,840 to people argue about how they needed to 3177 02:34:23,160 --> 02:34:20,620 proceed with this show and I decided 3178 02:34:28,260 --> 02:34:23,170 well that'll be the last one of these I 3179 02:34:30,360 --> 02:34:28,270 do and so I mean I love burns and all of 3180 02:34:34,979 --> 02:34:30,370 the UFO Hunters are nice guys a lot of 3181 02:34:38,639 --> 02:34:34,989 but I have been approached by all kinds 3182 02:34:40,139 --> 02:34:38,649 of media people and of course they 3183 02:34:43,769 --> 02:34:40,149 finally figured out I'm not going to 3184 02:34:45,570 --> 02:34:43,779 take you to Tamar Lee for one thing I 3185 02:34:46,991 --> 02:34:45,580 would probably be shot and killed by the 3186 02:34:48,941 --> 02:34:47,001 owners 3187 02:34:51,881 --> 02:34:48,951 if I brought anyone on it with any kind 3188 02:34:53,531 --> 02:34:51,891 of camera and because the first thing 3189 02:34:56,441 --> 02:34:53,541 they asked me they said the only thing 3190 02:34:59,501 --> 02:34:56,451 we ask is please keep our names and 3191 02:35:01,930 --> 02:34:59,511 locations out of the research and I 3192 02:35:04,991 --> 02:35:01,940 agreed and I've done that and I'll 3193 02:35:07,631 --> 02:35:05,001 continue to do it or I'll be thrown off 3194 02:35:10,810 --> 02:35:07,641 and but we had a couple of individuals 3195 02:35:13,781 --> 02:35:10,820 come onto the properties that was taken 3196 02:35:18,251 --> 02:35:13,791 care of I think pretty quickly one of 3197 02:35:21,480 --> 02:35:18,261 the ranchers let's see what is his 3198 02:35:25,060 --> 02:35:21,490 cousin or nephew something is the 3199 02:35:29,411 --> 02:35:25,070 sheriff and the county so that was put 3200 02:35:31,781 --> 02:35:29,421 to a real quick halt and and they they 3201 02:35:33,551 --> 02:35:31,791 authorized me to say on the site you 3202 02:35:37,151 --> 02:35:33,561 know if you try to come on the property 3203 02:35:39,520 --> 02:35:37,161 you'll be trespassing and it could be 3204 02:35:41,980 --> 02:35:39,530 shot okay and since we still have the 3205 02:35:45,810 --> 02:35:41,990 Second Amendment does still work in the 3206 02:35:48,761 --> 02:35:45,820 US just kind of watch it so okay 3207 02:35:50,831 --> 02:35:48,771 basically Ted we're going to expect 3208 02:35:52,841 --> 02:35:50,841 possibly by the time the show airs on 3209 02:35:55,361 --> 02:35:52,851 the 1st of August or maybe shortly 3210 02:35:57,011 --> 02:35:55,371 thereafter the new address of the new 3211 02:36:00,100 --> 02:35:57,021 site that you're setting up and we will 3212 02:36:02,291 --> 02:36:00,110 post it on the para cast site so that 3213 02:36:04,781 --> 02:36:02,301 everybody who is listening to the show 3214 02:36:07,480 --> 02:36:04,791 can figure out what you're doing and 3215 02:36:09,491 --> 02:36:07,490 check everything out further okay before 3216 02:36:11,770 --> 02:36:09,501 we let you go Chris tell our listeners 3217 02:36:14,230 --> 02:36:11,780 where we can find your stuff well I do 3218 02:36:16,571 --> 02:36:14,240 have a website it's called our strange 3219 02:36:19,060 --> 02:36:16,581 planet that's oh you are our strange 3220 02:36:21,371 --> 02:36:19,070 planet we live in a very strange planet 3221 02:36:23,501 --> 02:36:21,381 and that's our strange planet so my 3222 02:36:25,751 --> 02:36:23,511 entire database is on there for anyone 3223 02:36:27,520 --> 02:36:25,761 interested tons of good articles that 3224 02:36:30,551 --> 02:36:27,530 I've been calling from over the years 3225 02:36:33,191 --> 02:36:30,561 and you know we really want to thank Ted 3226 02:36:36,011 --> 02:36:33,201 for being on the show this is just I 3227 02:36:37,571 --> 02:36:36,021 think a historic monumental case I'm 3228 02:36:39,310 --> 02:36:37,581 just flabbergasted at the amount of 3229 02:36:41,081 --> 02:36:39,320 globe of what appears to be good quality 3230 02:36:42,941 --> 02:36:41,091 data that you've been able to amass and 3231 02:36:44,140 --> 02:36:42,951 I'm really looking forward to speaking 3232 02:36:47,560 --> 02:36:44,150 with you further about this dead 3233 02:36:49,031 --> 02:36:47,570 absolutely Ted Phillips thank you so 3234 02:36:51,041 --> 02:36:49,041 much for joining us this week on the 3235 02:36:53,870 --> 02:36:51,051 para cast along with Chris O'Brien 3236 02:36:56,440 --> 02:36:53,880 thank you thanks gene 3237 02:36:58,790 --> 02:36:56,450 [Music] 3238 02:37:00,260 --> 02:36:58,800 the para cast is a copyrighted 3239 02:37:03,110 --> 02:37:00,270 presentation of making the impossible 3240 02:37:07,060 --> 02:37:03,120 incorporated tune in next week for a new